Sam Peter was Broken Mentally

Madison · Oct 12, 2008

All in a hard day's work. Vitali is a total badass. He knows it, too.

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link2296 · Oct 12, 2008

Madison said:

All in a hard day's work. Vitali is a total badass. He knows it, too.

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Well deserved rest...awesome!!

:good

link2296 · Oct 12, 2008

Suge White said:

Mental Cut 8 is a lot like what VitKLiT suffered against Chris Byrd...that was the quit one right...???
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Big difference, Suge...Vitali wasn't losing that fight!!:rofl

platnumpapi · Oct 12, 2008

i hate when people play the shrink role, peter got outclassed PERIOD.he was taking a beating and could not do a damn thing about it but QUIT !

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS !

JMP · Oct 12, 2008

Madison said:

All in a hard day's work. Vitali is a total badass. He knows it, too.

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except it wasn't to hard for vitali. pretty easy actually

san rafael · Oct 12, 2008

MexicanJew said:

Now, I know there are a many threads going on about the beating Klitschko gave, and why Sam Peter performed so poorly, but as I see it, Klitschko truly won the fight by beating Sam mentally.

At the press conference, when Klitschko was holding on to the belt, Sam was already agitated by the fact that the thing was in German, foreign country and all that, but Klitschko standing there holding the belt really got to him. Mental Cut 1

And it wasn trash talk coming from Vitali either, he wasnt in Sams face yelling. But if you watch it he was just speaking to him, very quietly, with an expression Don King described as "Sinister". He got into Peters head. Mental Cut 2

The ring entrance also had to have played a part, hearing Vitali coming out to the crowds roar and then coming out to boos is always disconcerting for a fighter, it makes you feel lonely as hell. Mental Cut 3

During the first round, when Peter got caught and stunned with the first counter right hand that Vitali landed, that took the fight out of him right there. He must have had flashbacks to when he was hurt in the McCline fight for one, and two never in his career had Peter been hurt that quickly. Vitali had already imposed himself
Mental Cut 4

Peter's reaction was immediate, he never expected I think to be hit that hard, I think in a way it reminded him of Wladimir, but then Vitali wasnt Wladimir, he is Vitali, and he wasnt bothered or troubled by anything Peter threw. Imagine Peter thinking "both these brothers can beat me?!" that would affect him as well. Mental Cut 5

Look at the fight from Peters perspective. You are fighting a giant of a man, he is a whole head taller than you, looks like a Greek statue. He stands in front of you, leads you around the ring, and you CANT hit him. He leans away, counters you right back. You land a handful of punches, and they do nothing anyways. You cant even reach his head, you have to strain to look at him in the eyes, and when you look at him he knows and you know who is being dominated Mental Cut 6

and Finally, this goes on round after round. Over and over, and your corner cant tell you what to do differently, you dont know what to do differently. He is hurting you over and over and thousands of people are cheering as you get battered. Mental Cut 7

Mental Cut 8, and this is what broke Peter. You quit. You cant take it anymore, you are in pain, you can barely see, you know you are losing horribly, and you have had enough, and you quit. And whether people say it was smart or cowardly, you know in your heart that this man BEAT you, he BEAT you so badly you cant even finish the fight. You were not strong enough or good enough to finish the fight. You know it and so does everyone else. And however anyone else sees it, you know it makes him better than you, and that were the weaker dominated by the stronger.

And that is why Peter lost how he did, why he performed like he did, and that is why I dont expect him to come back the same from this loss. He is done as a champion fighter, done as a force that thinks he can beat anyone. DONE

This is why I love boxing, why I follow the sport, this is what I love to watch, and I will be damned if I didnt enjoy watching every last second of it.
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Good thread, MJ, I'm just now watching the fight and I've seen some early signs of some of the things you have referred to. Agreed.

MexicanJew · Oct 12, 2008

platnumpapi said:

i hate when people play the shrink role, peter got outclassed PERIOD.he was taking a beating and could not do a damn thing about it but QUIT !

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS !
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Oh **** off. Boxing is a mental sport as well as a physical one, any fighter or trainer or cornerman can tell you that. I know what I am speaking of.

link2296 · Oct 12, 2008

platnumpapi said:

i hate when people play the shrink role, peter got outclassed PERIOD.he was taking a beating and could not do a damn thing about it but QUIT !

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS !
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You really think that this beating won't have an effect on him mentally? Do you really think this sport is all about the physical being of a fighter? Think about what you are saying...the mental aspect of the game is everything!!

link2296 · Oct 12, 2008

J-M-P said:

except it wasn't to hard for vitali. pretty easy actually
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Whatever...do you have any idea what kind of preparation a fighter has to do mentally and physically to perform at that level?

It looked easy, yes...it was anything but!!

JMP · Oct 12, 2008

link2296 said:

Whatever...do you have any idea what kind of preparation a fighter has to do mentally and physically to perform at that level?

It looked easy, yes...it was anything but!!
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i was kidding more than anything. i fight in the amateurs and even when i've clearly outpointed a kid, it's still draining. going 3 rounds is hard and the training is even harder. can't imagine going 8, let alone 12.

Scar · Oct 12, 2008

Leeroy said:

I also think open scoring had an impact on Peter quitting.
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Even if there was no open scoring he wasn't landing anything to convince his self he's in the fight. He was out of it from the start and didn't do a single thing to trouble his opponent. The open scoring just confirmed it more for him even though he doesn't really need confirmation.

His corner should have threatened to stop the fight earlier if he didn't do anything in there.

Jerry · Oct 12, 2008

Leeroy said:

I also think open scoring had an impact on Peter quitting.
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I don't believe so, I think any fighter in Peter's position would pretty much know he'd lost every round anyway.

I can see open scoring being a problem in closer fights, but not this one. If Peter would have had any delusions of being ahead going into round 9, he has more problems than losing a boxing match.

Hank · Oct 12, 2008

He is not good fighter, it had nothing to do with mentel cuts. That sounds like Teddy Atlas crap. Vitali is solid fighter, Peter is not.

PH|LLA · Oct 12, 2008

mentally, physically, tactically, and all the other alleys

link2296 · Oct 12, 2008

J-M-P said:

i was kidding more than anything. i fight in the amateurs and even when i've clearly outpointed a kid, it's still draining. going 3 rounds is hard and the training is even harder. can't imagine going 8, let alone 12.
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Especially against guys that big...that has to be taxing. I stopped sparring when I was in college...I noticed that just getting hit with consistent jabs would hinder my ability to think in class. I remember feeling dizzy days after sparring. I can't even imagine how it feels without headgear!! :!:

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