Masterful HOPKINS stuns PAVLIK - Poll results & photos & post-fight video

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  1. BigBone

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    WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO we have only 6 days to count down...

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  2. BigBone

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    Loew's Columbus Day Message for Hopkins:

    "Bernard is going to discover on October 18 that his new world really is flat ... flat on his back," said Pavlik's trainer Jack Loew as they broke camp today to head to New York for Tuesday's news conference at BB King's in Times Square and then Caesars Atlantic City. "Kelly has had his best training camp ever and he is ready to shiver Hopkins' timbers from stem to stern. Kelly is prepared to fight Hopkins from the inside and the outside and if he gets the chance to put Hopkins away, he's going for it, unlike Joe Calzaghe. Kelly has more guts and confidence in himself than Calzaghe and he's going to ice Hopkins if the opportunity presents itself, and I think it will. Calzaghe is not a dumb guy. He's fighting Roy Jones instead of Kelly for a reason...self preservation."

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  3. BigBone

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  4. Decebal

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  7. T.S.

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    "Pavlik Got Pop"
    Pavlik by late rnd KO
     
  8. andyluvsanna

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    Been around here for a month or so finally registered, i feel this is is a good fight for Bernard as he cant really lose anything in this fight, more people than not expect him to lose, so maybe he can teach pavlik a lesson in boxing maturity and give pavlik good experience in going a 12 rounder against a difficult opponent, I hope it will be a gd competitive fight and i do feel it may be a split decision in favor of pavlik. I have only been a boxing fan for the past 2 to 3 years so plz cut me some slack if im getting anything wrong.
     
  9. Decebal

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    Some things to bear in mind:

    1. If this fight is close, Pavlik will get the decision. No point taking away from his shine when he's unbeaten and the next big American star by giving the win to an old man who is on his last legs in the business. Pavlik v. Taylor 2 was a close fight, some people even thought Taylor won it, and the scores were: 116-112, 117-111, 115-113. 117-111???

    2. Judges will score Pavlik's aggressiveness and activity very generously, even if it's not that effective, just like they did in the Taylor 2 fight. Hopkins, even if he is more effective, will be the counterpuncher, and he won't get many scores for that.

    3. The ref will not let Hopkins get away with anything too ugly against the golden boy Pavlik. This will give Kelly an advantage.

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    I am very uncertain about this fight. If the fight was fairly reffed and judged, I'd say Hopkins would win a close decision.

    I think there's about a 5% chance Hopkins gets KOed by Pavlik. Hopkins is much too smart defensively and much too good a survivor to get KOed. His chin is much too good too. If Pavlik wins a stoppage, it will be in the late rounds, due to attrition, with the ref "saving" Hopkins a bit too readily, IMO.

    I think there's a 10% chance of Hopkins stopping Kelly. Kelly's chin is not bad, but Hopkins will tag him as he comes in to fight, playing right into Hopkins' hands He will be easier to hit than Calzaghe, who came from all sorts of angles, had great defence and footwork and kept moving those hands in your face at the same time. Kelly comes forward in a straight line. His defence isn't great either. I can easily see Hopkins KDing Kelly even as much as 3 times, but I think he doesn't have enough to stop him at this stage.

    I think this fight will go to the scorecards. Pavlik will be active and aggressive and that will sit nicely with the judges. Hopkins will spin him, tag him, hustle him on the inside. It will be a very, very difficult fight for Kelly - much harder than he expects. He will keep missing Hopkins with his jab and his right hand and he will become frustrated. Hopkins will take advantage of that, trying to hurt him/mess him up. BUT...Hopkins is old and he cannot keep it up for a long time. Still, he won't have someone with Calzaghe's workrate and movement to deal with, so the fact that he's old and inactive won't mean as much against Kelly. Not least, the more aggressive and positive Kelly is, the greater the chance that Hopkins will score a KD.

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    , if he won't actually win it. I expect he'll KD Pavlik at least once too. I expect Pavlik to be in real deep waters against Hopkins and not be as effective with hit style as he might have hoped, against Hopkins. Still, I expect the judges to give Pavlik the win, either by 1-2 rounds, or much wider, if Hopkins doesn't KD him, or even by split decision if Hopkins does really well.
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    I'd be delighted if Kelly won fair and square.
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    and wish him all the best. He's good for boxing and deserves a lot of credit for taking on such a hard fight, in which he will not look good.

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  10. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Good first post:good But Bernard is getting KTFO for the first time in his career:good
     
  11. Rubberduck

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    Don´t think so!
    Probs to Pavlik for taking this fight. I voted Hops on points, but I wouldn´t dare betting on it.
     
  12. Decebal

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    Any more predictions or views?
     
  13. Caliboxing

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    Pavlik has to be careful in the first few rounds but other than that I think he will be too much for Hopkins in the second half of the fight.

    Pavlik UD.
     
  14. Decebal

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  15. T.S.

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    Four times Hopkins couldn't find his corner after the bell during fight with Calzaghe. This is not good sign.
    Pavlik by KO.