Calzaghe, Resume in perspective

There are indeed similarities, but there are also crucial differences:

- Calzaghe had been a world champion for 9 years by the time he fought Lacy
- Hatton's first world title shot was at Tszyu
- Tszyu is on a completely different level to Lacy, Mayweather is on a completely different level to Kessler or the version of Hopkins that Calzaghe fought
- After Hatton beat Tszyu, the only better fighter he fought was Mayweather. There aren't many better fighters around than the world no3 pound-for-pound and one of the best ever junior-welterweights
- Hatton moved up in weight to chase a fight with the world's pound-for-pound no.1, Floyd Mayweather, a man in supreme condition
- Calzaghe moved up in weight to fight a 43-year-old man

 

Kessler gets to much credit on this forum

 

Ah yes, the Proper Breakdown.
Classic one. :good

 

The Reid fight was the only conterversial dec in Ottke's carrer. The fight was his 2nd to last before he retired, he was obviously slipping. Calslappy never tried to unify or fight real contender until Ottke retired. I'm sure that's just a coincedence or something though.

 

how many fighters on hopkins record could beat calzaghe? apart from jones

 

Comon Ottke is already forgotten and will always be considered a joke. He refused anyone to even mention the name Calzaghe in interviews..what a little coward he was. All the while Joe was calling him out.

Ottke benefited from his promoter offering fighters top doller to come over to germany...little did they know they would be robbed.

 

Many thanks. :good

 

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Joe resume is not as bad as everyone goes on about, if it had more american names on it in place of european names, then he would get so much more credit.
But at the same time its not great, but for me it's a 6/10 resume. If he gets RJJ and Pavlik on it, it will look much better, tho RJJ now is shot.

BY the way Ottke was a ****, so **** off topcat.

 

Regardless of whether or not Calzaghe had fought top-tier opposition earlier in his career one cannot overlook his recent accomplishments. He ruined Jeff Lacy, beat the undefeated heir to 168 in Kessler, and just notched a victory over a great albeit faded fighter in Hopkins. Eubank needs no explaining and Reid was a world class operator. Wins over toughmen like Bika and Brewer aren't bad and neither is a win over Woodhall. Veit, while no worldbeater, was a decent European fighter and Joe beat him twice. There are enough names on Joe's resume that, on the right night and under the right circumstances, could have yielded a loss. You can subjectively say that Joe's resume is weak but you must objectively say that the man has yet to lose a single fight and he's fought 45 times as a pro. Perhaps you can sneak more subjectivity in the equation and say that it's pretty easy to have a bad night and lose at least one time out of 45. Joe's been perfect. What else can you say?

 

What does Hopkins have to do with a thread called 'Calzaghe, Resume in perspective'? Why bring him up? To try and deflect away from how poor Calzaghe's resume is by any chance?

The question isn't fair anyway, as Hopkins fought the vast majority of his career in a lower-weight class.

But since you ask:

How many fighters from Calzaghe's resume would beat Hopkins? NONE. NOT ONE WOULD HAVE A CHANCE. Peak Hopkins would dismantle a very good but one-dimensional fighter like Kessler, and the rest wouldn't have a prayer.

How many fighters from Hopkins's resume would beat Calzaghe? Definitely ONE, possibly TWO, an outside chance of THREE.
Peak Jones Jr annihilates Calzaghe, Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver at their light-heavyweight bests have a definite chance, given they were both at their peak at 175 and hit hard.

 

I guarantee Ottke ill be in the Hall of Fame. Unified champion with over 20 title defenses and no loses = H.O.F.

Calslappy never called out Ottke until Sven was ready to retire, his biggest fights until Ottke retired were vs Mitchell (who knocked him on his asss) and Brewer after Ottke had already beaten them.

 

Eubank does indeed need no explaining, I agree. Anyone who has followed his career knows that:

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tru dat. b-hop and rjj are definitely atg's and i think eubank should have a place in the hall of fame, but they were all past it when they fought joe. the rest esp kessler, bika, mitchell, and sheika were very good fighters. i'm unbiased esp of fighters they're accomplishments should speak for themselves. not too thrilled about his style but he can throw down some exciting fights when he decides to go toe to toe like he did with sheika and mitchell, and both those guys were murderous punchers. he impressed me the most with the kessler fight, i really thought kessler would pull it off, but joe has pretty good stamina which alot of fighters disregard in favor of power or speed. he still has alot in the tank