Pavlik jumped two weight classes to fight Bhop

Hopkins is 43 years old. Take a second to repeat that. Now think about it.

 

Exactly.

 

There both damn near the same size, the only guy with the advantage coming in is Pavlik, the fact that he's 26 and Hopkins was 43, enough said. I never thought much of Pavliks handspeed, which to me was nonexistant in the Taylor fights, where his oppenent had alot quicker hands.

Pavlik looked alot like Tarver did against Hopkins in 06, Hopkins seen everything coming and was able to counter punch very well, something he had a hard time doing against fighters with quick hands (Taylor, Calzaghe) I feel that made all the difference in the fight.

 

What two weight classes did Pavlik jump? I'm really interested in which two he jumped...

 

This is a more natural weight for Pavlik than Hopkins. No advantage at all.

 

Who did you pick to win the fight?

 

they both have a 75" reach.

pavlik is 1-1/2" taller.

hopkins is a much more impressive physical speciman overall.
he looks like a cruiserweight.

pavlik just looked like a tall muscleless avg reach mw with a bit of a spare tire added on.

back to mw the pavman goes!
:rasta nice try though.

 

Pavlik didnt even look a inch taller than Hopkins at the weigh-in, who's slated at 6'1, where Pavlik is said to be 6'2. Pavlik even said after the first Taylor fight how hard it is to make weight at Middle, the guy will fill out at Light Heavy, he can carry the weight I believe. Hopkins and Pavlik are roughly the same size, I dont see why this is even a arguement, Hopkins was just the better man when the smoke cleared saturday night.

 

The excuses continue to fly !! Where is the official excuse from Jack Loew?

 

The Pavlik vs. Hopkins fight was a joke with no impact of Pavlik's future, re:

I've been a lurker on this site and enjoy reading all the comments. I respect divergent opinions. Nevetheless, I admit I'm confused about today's state of boxing vs. years ago. Case in point is the recent Pavlik vs. Hopkins fight.

First, I believe Pavlik was outboxed by Hopkins. But, what did Pavlik lose ? A perfect record, which few fighters achieve. He did not fight for his middleweight belt or a title fight. He did put lots of money in his bank account, and at 4 to 1 odds, if I was a betting man, I may have betted against myself.

Second, these catchweight fights are similar to wrestling matches. Here, Pavlik moves up two weight classes from middleweight to Lt Heavy weight for a non-title fight ? He never fought at that weight before, I think ? What happened to tune up fights and fighting up through the ranks in a certain weight class ?

Third, if Hopkins was fighting for the middleweight belt, I think the Pavik performance factor may have been different.

Fourth, De La Hoya was stopped by Hopkins, yet the naysayers have little problem paying to see him fight PacMan or other ridiculous bouts that again are non-title fights. And, no one says De La Hoya was exposed or a bum when he had to stop fighting due to a body shot by Hopkins.

Finally, these professional fighters are at such a higher level that it is not beyond reason to make these fights sparring matches or a day at the gym for them. They can hedge on output, hold back on knockouts, and do just about anything to let you think it was a true fight. It is snake oil and smoke and mirrors with suckers paying to see these stupid fights.

So, this fight sustains Hopkins as an aging fighter who can fight Jones or Calzaghe (sic) again for more money. It sustains these guys for a few more years. If they were such greats why not fight for the middleweight belt or a championship bout ?

I can see no gain for Pavik for taking this fight other than a big pay day and being assured of future fights by the match makers.

I also think that Pavik will be back and clean up the middle weight division. He is young, hits hard, and needs a few adjustments.

These are solely my own personal opinions.

Cheers,

KMcD

 

No he didn't. He moved up a little over 1 weight class. 170lbs is far closer to supermiddleweight than light-heavyweight. Plus Pavlik had fought at 166lbs before (and won), which is only a massive 4lbs of a difference, so it wasn't completely unknown territory.

 

Pavlik fought fights above 160 before - remember Pavlik-Taylor II? - and he is known to put on about 10 pounds from weigh-in to fight nightl.