Do you really want to see Calzaghe vs Hopkins 2?

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  1. Vincent Gottschalk

    Vincent Gottschalk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There first fight was horrible:barf there styles did not mash up well at all, it was ugly:!: Do you really want see it again and if so why:huh
     
  2. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    Not really. Same fight, same performance, except this time I expect Hopkins to cheat even more down the stretch and Calzaghe to win even more points by windmilling his way to a UD.

    I couldnt be bothered with the build up, I hope it doesnt happen. Hopkins has one fight left in him and I hope it is against a victorious or beaten Roy, that would be the perfect ending to boths careers.
     
  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I'd like to see it again!
     
  4. andy mack

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    I think BHOP would try different tactics if they met again as he basically sat on his first round knockdown and tried to just nick rounds rather than dominate which proved to be unsuccessful. If he tried to fight the way he fought pavlik I'd like to see it but am pretty sure that wouldn't be able to against Calzaghe and would predict another Calzaghe victory.
     
  5. jeffradka

    jeffradka Active Member Full Member

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    Hopkins fans want to see it, Calzaghe fans do not.
     
  6. treva1977

    treva1977 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    because hopkins fans are living in hope.he brought his best game plan to calzaghe and he fought a good fight,but there is no way he would be able to get away with what he got away with with pavlik as calzaghe would wipe the floor with him on trying and win by large margin.
     
  7. Predicto

    Predicto Boxing Addict Full Member

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    not really... despite his great performance vs Pavlik, I see a replay of the same boring, ugly fight... with the same result= JC -S.D. W
     
  8. SR IN WALES

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    Guy's I just posted this on another thread but applies
    I agree, the hopkins that beat Pavlik- looked fantastic. I also believe that the hopkins that turned up for the Joe C fight was also in the shape of his life, with all his cunning and ring smarts. Hopkins fought Joe the way he did, because he knows thats the best style to use to beat him. The agressive hopkins that looked so amazing chopping Pavik down to size, could not fight Joe C the same way- and he knows this. Pavlik let BHOP unload on him, Pavlik looked depressingly slow at times and BHOP capitalised on this. Joe C (even though he is slowing) is still quicker than Bhop and just loves agressive fighters who come to him. BHOPS was smart enough to use the defensive tactic against Joe C, and in a rematch (if it ever does happen) I just can not see Hopkins fighting any different.I think BHOPS comments at the time were along the lines of "if he throws 1000 punches a fight that's a 1000 opporunties I have to counter him"/ (well the same in reverse, the let your hands go BHOP that faced Pavlik leaves himself open to a much quicker foe in Calzaghe, should he use that tactic in any rematch).That agressive BHOP turning up in a Joe C rematch does so with the knowledge that its a kill or be killed mentality- that fight ends in a knockout or a severe stoppage loss- for either party. Joe C is an animal when tagged, but in boxing it only takes one perfect punch- no one is unbeatable- but that aggressive BHOP turning up has to be willing to lose it all- (a KO/ Stoppage loss is not the last entry a future ATG wants on his resume)- BHOP is smart enough to realise that- A rematch, as much as I would love to see it based on BHOPs recent fantastic performance, would unfortunately be fought the same way as the original - very cautiously-- It would only serve to generate the big bucks and nothing more...
    BHOP: You are a legend (with all the talents, smarts and a marvelous boxing brain, but so is Calzaghe: and its about time people woke up and realised these great fighters fight with their brains- not just their hands..
     
  9. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Nope,definetely not,it would be an ugly fight...again
     
  10. Flam1ngo

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    I've said before and I'll say it again - Kessler is first in the line for a rematch!!!!
     
  11. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The first fight was boring. Why would I want to see that again.
     
  12. Bodysnatcher

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  13. Quirinal

    Quirinal New Member Full Member

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    Yes, I would like to see it. The first fight was very close, and a second fight could thus potentially answer a great deal of questions. The way many of you simply blow off the Hopkins we saw against Pavlik, is ridiculous: you simply can't know how it would go.

    If Hopkins fares worse against Calzaghe, and it becomes a shut out, then so be it: because Hopkins has shown that he still has something left, a dominant performance (or a shut out) would say a great deal about Calzaghe; moreover, it would shut up many of his naysayers.

    On the other hand, of the fights Hopkins has lost in recent years, it's been because of lack of aggression, a low workrate and him starting slow, all of which it seems he may have remedied. If I recall correctly, after Bernard had taken his 'break' in the 9th round, he seemed rather effective moving forward and taking the fight to Joe.
     
  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Good post.

    The first fight was extremely close and could have gone either way. I had no problems with Calzaghe being awarded the decision, and was immensely impressed by Joe that night.

    However, I think too many people are expecting a replay of their first encounter, and I, for one, am not so sure that Hopkins would not perform much better employing a slightly different strategy.