America lives in dreamland

actually this is a Swedish couple, she just shaved her mustache

 

and what happened the last a brittish P4P challenged an american for that top spot?? pretty sure he got smacked the **** around by PBF..

 

Yeah, and I'm Captain Phukall of the Vietnamese Air Force.

No need to hide behind petty deception kid, especially when your laughable attempts to disguise internet persona fail . Yes, we can decisively tell by your previous posts (the kind of incoherent though processing and immature name-calling that esteemed faculty members are known for) that you are a "professor in science and medicine".

 

Generalize much?

 

If you were a professor in medicine--wouldnt you at least spell professor and medicine correctly??:huh

 

The same David Starie Calzaghe gets flak for fighting.

 

Woods mustve ruined him:yep

 

True. Its all about media coverage. One example: I never knew there was a boxer named Brian Minto, but then he was boxing in biggest German free TV, and now I am a fan.

 

I've been a lurker on this site and enjoy reading all the comments. I respect divergent opinions. Nevetheless, I admit I'm confused about today's state of boxing vs. years ago. Case in point is the recent Pavlik vs. Hopkins fights.

First, I believe Pavlik was outboxed by Hopkins. But, what did Pavlik lose ? A perfect record, which few fighters achieve. He did not fight for his middleweight belt or a title fight. He did put lots of money in his bank account, and at 4 to 1 odds, if I was a betting man, I may have betted against myself.

Second, these catchweight fights are similar to wrestling matches. Here, Pavlik moves up two weight classess from middleweight to Lt Heavy weight for a non-title fight ? He never fought at that weight before, I think ? What happened to tune up fights and fighting up through the ranks in a certain weight class ?

Third, if Hopkins was fighting for the middleweight belt, I think the Pavik performance factor may have been different.

Fourth, De La Hoya was stopped by Hopkins, yet the naysayers have little problem paying to see him fight PacMan or other ridiculous bouts that again are non-title fights. And, no one says De La Hoya was exposed or a bum when he had to stop fighting due to a body shot by Hopkins.

Finally, these professional fighters are at such a higher level that it is not beyond reason to make these fights sparring matches or a day at the gym for them. They can hedge on output, hold back on knockouts, and do just about anything to let you think it was a true fight. It is snake oil and smoke and mirrors with suckers paying to see these stupid fights.

So, this fight sustains Hopkins as an aging fighter who can fight Jones or Calzaghe (sic) again for more money. It sustains these guys for a few more years. If they were such greats why not fight for the middleweight belt or a championship bout ?

I can see no gain for Pavik for taking this fight other than a big pay day and being assured of future fights by the match makers.

I also think that Pavik will be back and clean up the middle weight division. He is young, hits hard, and needs a few adjustments.

These are solely my own personal opinions.

Cheers,

KMcD

 

the difference is this...

pavlik got in the limelight for taking chances against proven fighters who had beaten proven world class fighters in their prime.

you don't get many, if any, genuine opportunities to do this if you don't play on the world stage with the big boys.

this is why leeches like frank warren are so damaging for the credibility of british boxing - because he rarely risks his fighters overseas and almost never in the US.

therefore, euro based fighters who subscribe to his philosophy are not likely to get big fights.

it's not an "anti-euro" sentiment, because ricky hatton showed all the other guys how you break that mold.

you get off your arse, fight credible opponents in the US, and three fights later you can call out - and get - a fight against the best fighter in the world.

every time someone tries to even hint that guys like calzaghe, froch or any other good fighters who fight most of their fights out of europe are getting a raw deal - you remember what ricky hatton did (leaving warren and having enough self respect to risk his paydays to find out how good he was) and you remember that's all it takes if you want respect or a legacy in a sport which sometimes is lost amid the illusion of "world champion" and "undefeated" - two things which should never be spoken easily when there is no solid system or single governing body to make these words legitimate 100%.

 

This is the truth.