Pavlik's dad: Kelly had bronchitis!

Yeah whatever man..

 

He looked like he was wearing 5 pound gloves. Something was wrong with him. Regardless he got a boxing lesson.

 

I said I disagree with kelly on this one...but he did not mention it after the fight...he did not make excuses in the post fight interviwe...although I do feel he should have said the guy is GREAT after the fight instead of that just wasnt me...but lets be real...the guy just got ****ing assaulted by BHOP does Bhop really need to hear his praise

 

atsch What a goddamn idiot. I take it you can read Reg? Dare to be objective. Its obvious you want to hear excuses so you'll believe whatever feebile bull**** you come accross

 

Source Youngstown Vindicator: "Pavlik and his trainer Jack Loew both credited Hopkins for fighting a terrific bout and made pains to emphasize they weren’t making excuses."

 

how much better?

 

agreed it is at least an explanation for his future..like saying "hey world i am actually not an AWFUL fighter who has no speed and no balance, I was very sick" I dont see the problem in that

 

Talking out of your ass again I see Realizm. I posted quotes right out of Pavlik's mouth.

 

Not surprising... almost every undefeated fighter who loses the first time has some type of exuse. understandable but not acceptable.

 

he would of KO'd him:bbb



just kidding...I have no clue but OBVIOUSLY with those ailments he would have done much better...he looked sick that is for sure...he still would have lost no question

 

Can you read this Reg? I know, you would rather be content pretending:yep

 

The Pavlik vs. Hopkins fight was a joke with no impact of Pavlik's future, re:

I've been a lurker on this site and enjoy reading all the comments. I respect divergent opinions. Nevetheless, I admit I'm confused about today's state of boxing vs. years ago. Case in point is the recent Pavlik vs. Hopkins fight.

First, I believe Pavlik was outboxed by Hopkins. But, what did Pavlik lose ? A perfect record, which few fighters achieve. He did not fight for his middleweight belt or a title fight. He did put lots of money in his bank account, and at 4 to 1 odds, if I was a betting man, I may have betted against myself.

Second, these catchweight fights are similar to wrestling matches. Here, Pavlik moves up two weight classes from middleweight to Lt Heavy weight for a non-title fight ? He never fought at that weight before, I think ? What happened to tune up fights and fighting up through the ranks in a certain weight class ?

Third, if Hopkins was fighting for the middleweight belt, I think the Pavik performance factor may have been different.

Fourth, De La Hoya was stopped by Hopkins, yet the naysayers have little problem paying to see him fight PacMan or other ridiculous bouts that again are non-title fights. And, no one says De La Hoya was exposed or a bum when he had to stop fighting due to a body shot by Hopkins.

Finally, these professional fighters are at such a higher level that it is not beyond reason to make these fights sparring matches or a day at the gym for them. They can hedge on output, hold back on knockouts, and do just about anything to let you think it was a true fight. It is snake oil and smoke and mirrors with suckers paying to see these stupid fights.

So, this fight sustains Hopkins as an aging fighter who can fight Jones or Calzaghe (sic) again for more money. It sustains these guys for a few more years. If they were such greats why not fight for the middleweight belt or a championship bout ?

I can see no gain for Pavik for taking this fight other than a big pay day and being assured of future fights by the match makers.

I also think that Pavik will be back and clean up the middle weight division. He is young, hits hard, and needs a few adjustments.

These are solely my own personal opinions.

Cheers,

KMcD

 

Yeah and that is pretty much the normal precursor to making an excuse...

"I'm not making any excuses, BUT, I was suffering from bronchitis, typhoid, my spine was fractured from a car crash, I had broken both hands in the gym and someone dropped sedatives in my water bottle, but you know no excuses, he beat me fair and square."

You quote a newspaper saying "They weren't making excuses" someone else quotes direct words from Kelly Pavlik saying that Hopkins was beaten bt Taylor and hit at will be Calzaghe, but he couldn't him because there was "nothing there" and you guys then insist he is not making excuses.

Priceless.

I tell you what let's see him in with a Kessler or a Bute and when he gets thrashed again, they can release their "No excuses BUT" line again.

 

The quotes from Pavlik are from a prefight confident Pavlik. The beaten Pavlik has said nothing of the sort after the asswhipping he recieved. What the **** is wrong with you?
****, Mayorga talked a good fight BEFORE he got KTFO by Mosley but was gracious in defeat just as Pavlik was. Of course Pavlik was nowhere near the disrespectful trash talker he was merely confident in beating the man in front of him