Pavliks Performance Was The Worst In Recent Memory!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BoxingTrashTalk, Oct 21, 2008.


  1. daz52

    daz52 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pavlik would have beat any other fighter that night? If ur talking about the Hopkins night i think ur crazy he would have gotten whopped by at least 5 other guys with that horrible show
     
  2. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think guys do have off-nights or when they "underperform". Less often nowadays since top fighters fight less, but still, it happens.

    In this case however, it's mostly due to Hopkins. It's no coincidence that an offensive forces like Trinidad was largely ineffective against Hopkins, Calzaghe missed most of his shots and his workrate was lower than usual, Taylor missed most of his shots, Pavlik couldn't get into rhythm, etc....

    Hopkins is a defensive whiz and a master tactician.
     
  3. treva1977

    treva1977 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he said he just wasnt with it,i think it has alot to do with jumping up two weight classes in such short time.
    i always said it was a big mistake to take this fight.
    i hope it hasnt ruined him now as he was a worthy champion at mw.
    he should fight a few bums to get his confidence back before thinking about facing abraham.
     
  4. elgranluchador

    elgranluchador New Member Full Member

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    u guys seem to forget about sam peter quickly
     
  5. LeonardLeroy

    LeonardLeroy Active Member Full Member

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    Cool. So?

    Are you calling Pavlik inexperienced, someone who's never competed on the world stage? I'm going to go ahead and say that his two fights against Taylor were equally big events for him.
     
  6. BoxingTrashTalk

    BoxingTrashTalk Active Member Full Member

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    Both were terrible on the night.
     
  7. KMcDee

    KMcDee New Member Full Member

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    The Pavlik vs. Hopkins fight was a joke with no impact of Pavlik's future, re:

    I've been a lurker on this site and enjoy reading all the comments. I respect divergent opinions. Nevetheless, I admit I'm confused about today's state of boxing vs. years ago. Case in point is the recent Pavlik vs. Hopkins fight.

    First, I believe Pavlik was outboxed by Hopkins. But, what did Pavlik lose ? A perfect record, which few fighters achieve. He did not fight for his middleweight belt or a title fight. He did put lots of money in his bank account, and at 4 to 1 odds, if I was a betting man, I may have betted against myself.

    Second, these catchweight fights are similar to wrestling matches. Here, Pavlik moves up two weight classes from middleweight to Lt Heavy weight for a non-title fight ? He never fought at that weight before, I think ? What happened to tune up fights and fighting up through the ranks in a certain weight class ?

    Third, if Hopkins was fighting for the middleweight belt, I think the Pavik performance factor may have been different.

    Fourth, De La Hoya was stopped by Hopkins, yet the naysayers have little problem paying to see him fight PacMan or other ridiculous bouts that again are non-title fights. And, no one says De La Hoya was exposed or a bum when he had to stop fighting due to a body shot by Hopkins.

    Finally, these professional fighters are at such a higher level that it is not beyond reason to make these fights sparring matches or a day at the gym for them. They can hedge on output, hold back on knockouts, and do just about anything to let you think it was a true fight. It is snake oil and smoke and mirrors with suckers paying to see these stupid fights.

    So, this fight sustains Hopkins as an aging fighter who can fight Jones or Calzaghe (sic) again for more money. It sustains these guys for a few more years. If they were such greats why not fight for the middleweight belt or a championship bout ?

    I can see no gain for Pavik for taking this fight other than a big pay day and being assured of future fights by the match makers.

    I also think that Pavik will be back and clean up the middle weight division. He is young, hits hard, and needs a few adjustments.

    These are solely my own personal opinions.

    Cheers,

    KMcD
     
  8. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was shite, he just seemed to stand there and take punches for 12 rounds - that is because of Hopkins though.

    All is not lost though he's still young and can do something at middle.
     
  9. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Really?

    I would say Sam Peter put on perhaps the worst performance I have seen in ages.
     
  10. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    we all saw the fight...we get the point he looked bad...the fight is over can we move on now
     
  11. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he was sick...since thread after thread is saying how bad he was...I will say it...i know it is called anexcuse but he was sick...u could see he looked lethargic...he lost he would of lost no matter what but he was sick so he got destroyed...BHOP fought a onderful fight...we all knoow KP got smoked let it go