Choc on Channel 9 footy coverage

Well he won the first 2 rounds, the 4th, and then the 12th against Kessler.

Green wasn't on the slide mate. Even Green at his best would have got schooled.

Im not saying hes Jesus. But Choc Mundine is world class (doesn't fight best though), and he has been competitive every time he stepped it up).

A lot of hogwash going around.

 

Yes, incapable - every time he has stepped up he has lost. He may have the physical ability, but he is not the complete package.

Now you're relying on your opinion instead of facts to back yourself up -whether or not he was 'hurting Ottke' is irrelevant, because Ottke knocked him out. Result - Mundine loss.

Siaca knocked him down and beat him on points. Result - Mundine loss.

Kessler won at least 9 rounds when they fought, and Mundine was reluctant to engage, and apart form a brief flurry here and there, ran for most of the fight. Yet somehow the fact that he survived 12 rounds is basis for belief in him. Result - Mundine loss.

Who mentioned Andrade?

 

Did you watch any of Mundine's footy career? Did you never see him have a bad game?

Oh yeah, what about the 99 GF? atsch

 

You've pwned yourself for constantly saying that Mundine actually won any rounds unanimously :yep

 

Your highly critical mate. You really are.

Kessler did not win 9 rounds. Mundine won the 1st, 2nd, 7th and 12th rounds.

He hurt Ottke in the 8th round. And Siaca yeh he fought ****.

But in no means, was this a one sided beatdown like Kessler vs Andrade.

Whom Andrade is widely referred to as world class.

On this forum. Hate takes a new meaning.

 

I remember the fight well, I've seen it a few times, and I could only really give Mundine the 1st (mainly due to Kessler not doing much, the 3rd, and the 9th.
The 12th was close, but a Kessler round.
Hell, even Barry Michaels had it a Kessler round before then umming and arring and calling it a draw.

Normally if Michaels calls it even, it's a 10 - 8 round to the other guy.

 

No, I'm realistic.

Who said Mundine won those rounds vs Kessler? Do you understand the concept of unanimous scoring? The 3 refs scored the fight 116-112, 120-108 and 117-113.

Firstly, for Mundine to have won 4 rounds, at least 2 judges would have had to score the fight 116-112.

Secondly, those 2 judges who actually did score rounds for Mundine would have had to both score exactly the same rounds as each other for Mundine, otherwise he would not have won those rounds unanimously.

I never said it was a one-sided beatdown like Kessler vs Andrade, however, it was a pretty one-sided fight - look at the scores, watch the fight again. Apart from a few flurries every now and then in an attempt to steal rounds, and trashtalking to Kessler on a couple of occasions while he was on the ropes. Mundine did nothing else but run. Kessler landed many more punches on Mundine than Mundine did on Kessler.

I didn't see Ottke get hurt in the 8th round, I saw Ottke starting to slow Mundine down with his right hand thereabouts. Unless you're referring to the KD that was ruled a slip? That was a line ball as far as I'm concerned, because Ottke's momentum was what carried him into the ropes and he bounced off and fell. Granted Mundine landed a punch during this, but Ottke was up and unfazed, definitely not hurt.

 

Where do you come up with this 4 rounds bull****?atsch

The scorecards were available for a while after the fight.... and there were only 2 rounds where a majority (2 out of 3) Judges gave the round to Mundine...

Therefore... Mundine took 2 rounds only off Kessler on the official scorecards...

 

His individualism definetly worked in that game.No doubting that.He was on fire.

But in the end it was the death of him in the GF..Look i hate the dragons so much but IF ONLY HE PASSED THE ****ING BALL.Y MUNDINE Y??

He still would of looked like a legend setting up the try..But mundine always wants the whole cake to himself...

 

I didnt think Mundine took the 12th. Very clear Kessler round, Mundine came out more aggressive but by the end of the round was trying to stay out of trouble.

I recall Mundine getting comprehensively beaten in the mid-rounds, cant remeber him winning a round there.

The 3rd was probably his best round because he landed a couple of solid shots on Kessler but so did Mikkel on him. The 2nd Im pretty sure Kessler was starting to get into it and Choc didnt throw much so I dont think I scored him that round.

And believe me I was going for Choc, had money on Choc and truly believed he could win, I was looking for any chance to score a round for him but even 117-111 flatters him. I had it 118-110. And honestly I dont really have any problem with the 120-108 scoreline the dutchman had because even the rounds Choc wrestled away from Kessler were more or less a toss up. Whilst maybe not an indication of the effort Choc gave, thats how boxing is scored and you can have fights that are highly competitive shutouts or you can have fight were Fighter A beats the **** out of Fighter B but gives a few rounds away in the process and a closer appearing 116-112 is the outcome.

Whether he scraped a round here or there isnt really important in the wash, he was well beaten and was never really in ascendecy at any point in the fight.

 

Lokk who coached those sides..

Melbourne coach for nsw and Cronulla for Australia.

Though Gallen goes pretty good.Glad i dont have to watch Greg Bird's act as a five-eight.As a five-eight myself it pains me to watch him just tuck the ball under his arm starving the centres.

 

GOOD POST!.... By someone who knows more about boxing than most:good

 

its not the specific episode from the footy show but its better then nothing..
its a video of when mundine was on the footy show back in may i think it was. there is also a couple of other videos too...just thought u guys would want to know

http://au.truveo.com/Interview-with-Anthony-Mundine/id/3357120634

 

Watched the fight about 5 times.

Mundine won 3-4 rounds. And the fight was highly competitive.

I suggest you watch Kessler - Andrade. And that is one heavy beat down.

atsch

 

I can't take you seriously. You think the guy who scored it 120-108 for Kessler is right?

Sums it up.

atsch

And he was one big right away from stopping Ottke. atsch