WHOA!!! I just read boxing news...

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Dunky McCafferty, Oct 26, 2008.


  1. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    There are some decent wins but nothing on there that would make a world class fighter worry at all. The type of fights he is having at coming up 29 years old are ridiculous, there is the argument that the can't get the decent opponents in the ring but then he passes on Witter....
     
  2. brown bomber

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    Yes but domestic stoppages over Pryce and Nummembe are impressive... The Witter fight was one that he should have definately taken. Even at 2 weeks notice you'd think they would be desperate for any oppertunity to make a breakthrough.
     
  3. "TKO"

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    I know what you mean Jethro, I think the only reason everyone is being a bit harsh on him is because they're sick of Olu bashing on about how he's the greatest African fighter since Azumah Nelson and would beat Hatton, Witter, Bradley, Holt and Torres in one night with one hand tied behind his back the seeing him step in with Mr 3-10-2 fighter who got a speeding ticket on the way to the arena.

    The guy had a couple of good wins over decent commonwealth level fighters a few years back, but he has simply not kicked on since and has not done anything to warrant the hype. He is, what, 29 and I personally will take an interest when he's in a fight that warrants it. I simply refuse to believe that EVERYONE refuses to take him on. In Olu's mind, Hatton (allegedly) telling him to get and get himself a world ranking when Ajose wanted a contest rather than to be a sparring partner counts as avoiding him. Until six months ago when Witter lost his title, a fight with someone his level would have been way out of Ajose's reach. If it has been offered all of a sudden, Ajose should snap his hand off, it's only one loss and Witter is still top 5 at 140.

    Otherwise, he should just go to the States. I can see how a little know fighter like Ajose could have trouble attracting worthwhile opponents over here. Hatton is obviously out of his reach and if Witter doesnt happen who else? Lynes or Rees at a pinch, that's about it. He doesn't have the name or the promotional backing to entice decent overseas fighters over here to face him. Over in the States there are guys like Tackie, Ndou, Ngoudjo, Randall Bailey, Arnoutis, Devon Alexander, Lamont Peterson. All a few steps above what he has been fighting and I'm sure one of them would entertain him, plus he could pick up some more serious promotional backing.

    This is not a rant at you by the way my good man, just kind of writing my thoughts as they come to me lol
     
  4. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I agree.:good
     
  5. "TKO"

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    Following on, yeah his domestic stoppages are impressive and that's why I think it should be the catalyst to take on some decent international, fringe world class opposition and take the next step up. In the mind of Olu, the world champs "should take on all comers" and any of them not looking twice at his boy is a reflection of fear. It is simply a reflection of the fact that he cannot seriously expect to jump from fighting Alex Spitko to a world title tilt without having to put in the hard yards to get the shot.

    I remember commenting that Hatton had fought Magee, Tackie, Oliveira and Phillips to get his title shot, Witter fought Ndou and Kotelnik. All I got was a slightly sarky "yeah cos those guys are such great fighters aren't they?" However, those mid-level fringe world class guys are the kind of fighters you need to beat to get to the big fish and which Ajose has so far failed to do. He has not fought anyone close to that level yet. I think this singular lack of achievement compared with Olu's "Ajose will kill everyone in sight and they're all terrified of him", the constant excuses that the opponent was in the best shape of his life etc... is what's turning a lot of people off him.
     
  6. elle

    elle Journeywoman Full Member

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    I agree Pryce and Nuumbembe were decent domestic wins and names for Olusegun but these fights were in 2004 and 2006. I dont think he has progressed enough since then. This is a guy who turned pro 7+ years ago, is still at commonwealth level and his last 2/3 fights have been non title 6 round affairs.

    An opportunity to fight a former world champion (still rated higher than him by the WBC) comes along and it isn't taken?!
     
  7. African Cobra

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    Witter has no credibility whatsoever. He beat a lot of washed up fighters and the Mexican road sweeper Arturo Mora. Who excatly has he beaten that gives him credibility.
     
  8. TFFP

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    Are you serious?

    You don't think Harris, Corley, Kotelnik and N'dou are more credible than some of the garbage you've been feasting on?

    Where are Olusegun's names to match that credibility? Bradley Price, Nuumembe and Wright, okay good wins, but nothing like comparable.

    You are either plain ignorant or intellectually dishonest. I don't know which.
     
  9. African Cobra

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    Ajose is the undefeated and undisputed African Boxing Union, Commonwealth, Nigerian and WBF Intercontinental Champion and ranked number 3 by the WBC the most prestigious organisation. The joke will be on you or anyone prepared to step in there with us because all we do is win period as Witter will find out if he steps in there with us.
     
  10. African Cobra

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    Sorry but Witter is nothing at all. Anyone who can really fight will beat Witter. Ajose bows down to no one especially Witter of all the people.
     
  11. "TKO"

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    How long do you think Gary Reid would last with Witter Olu? How would you see Ajose - Ndou or Ajose - Harris going? Cos they are the kind of fights he needs to move it to the next level. As I said he should think about getting over to the States, over there he could get some decent fringe opposition which would help work his way up.

    If he has been offered Witter he should take it, especially if you're so confident he would beat him. But how about some details of these offers which have been made either way? Offers and counter offers are meaningless unless you can compare what's involved.
     
  12. ishy

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    Like that means a lot :rofl.
     
  13. African Cobra

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    First of all the ABU title and WBF Intercontinental are higher titles than Commonwealth level. We are taking every title available to us on the way to the world title. Witter can have the fight as we did not turn him down or price ourselves out. We made a counter offer and they have gone silent proving once again that they don't want it.

    Witter is nothing and in my opinion means nothing whatsoever. He can put up or shut up but he is not worthy of consideration quite frankly. Men like Pryce and Nuubembee are bigger men at higher weight divisions handled with ease. I can guarantee that Ajose would knock Witter out.
     
  14. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Then take the fight and get your fighters name out there. You must realize time isn't on your side here and the last year has been totally wasted?
     
  15. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ajose should take the short money against Witter if he is that confident of knocking him out. Ajose has yet to face ONE world class fighter and the ABU and WBF world, nevermind Intercontinental titles mean nothing. Who;s the last great light welterweight from Africa?