Carlos Zarate vs. Orlando Canizales

I'd say Zarate about 10 rounds to 5. I don't think Canizales' skills are any better than that of an Alberto Davilla (which is not to disparage Orlando's skills, Alberto was a very technically astute fighter), though he is more resilient, stronger and maybe harder hitting than Alberto.

Will be very tight over the first 10 rounds, but Zarate should distinguish himself in the last third of the fight when both tire a little and moving in and out becomes more of a dangerous proposition for the smaller fighter in Orlando.

 

canizales had a very late-70s Duran feel to his best work imo.I think the main difference between him and the technical fighters zarate fought is reflexes and offensive variety.canizales was a tremendously varied punchpicker.

It's tough to say how he would do against great Bantams though, due to his level of competition, plus he did occasionally look very flat against ordinary fighters like Hardy.

I think you would probably be right in your take sweet.That height and reach coupled with the threat of zarate's power might be too much.

 

...............I have to say I wouldn't be shocked if Canizales pulls this off. He was quick and threw his punches straight, just right to get inside the praying mantis that was Zarate and surprise him.

If I had to bet though, I would probably go with Zarate. The only thing missing from Canizales is real power, which would most likely mean Carlos could survive the initial problems and begin to show his strength later.

It's a tough fight though; easily Zarate's toughest as a bantam. It's worth noting too, that he didn't exactly fight any real world beaters at that weight, except Zamora. He was also rocked against Zamora and Rodolfo Martinez. I see real chances for Canizales here.

 

I agree with Sal when he says that Orlando has a real chance at winning this. Sure, he could look like he was simply going thru the motions at times and not fighting to his full ability, but when on form this guy was a beautiful fighter with a tremendous punch variety.

I think Canizales can use his excellent ability to slip and counter with a variety of different lead shots to really stun Zarate and make him a little leary of trying to walk him down like he did to so many other opponents.

Besides, Zarate was a little too robotic to my liking and he would have trouble against someone as shifty and fluid as Canizales imo, Canizales is a better and harder hitting version of Alberto Davila and Dla gave Zarate all he could handle before he was overwhelmed by the bigger Zarate`s power.

But before the stoppage Davila was giving a very good account of himself and even managed to really stun Carlos early in the fight with a lighting quick right lead to the chops that buckled his legs, and in my opinion had that been Orlando in there instead of Alberto he may well have gotten him out of there after landing a shot like that.

Zarate didn`t have a particularly strong beard and could be hurt, and Canizales` hard, accurate counters and especially that left hook to the body on Zarate`s skinny frame can see him get him out of there at some point in the fight. Frankly I`ve never been all that impressed with Zarate and a peak Canizales has the tools to get him out of there I feel, so with that said I`m picking Canizales by decision or late TKO in the last third of the fight.

 

I'd say Pintor and Davilla are better than Zamora, and they are also clearly a level above anyone Canizales ever beat. As far as putting runs on the board, the edge has to go to Zarate. You could argue easily that even a Rodolfo Martinez or Paul Ferreri are better than anyone Canizales ever beat.

 

...........Yeah, I forgot about Davila and put the Pintor fight out of my mind I guess, mainly becaue I was unconsciously separating wins and losses.

Good call, but it's still not any kind of cakewalk, and if anyone has the style to beat Zarate, it's someone like Canizales.

 

Canizales has a chin of steel, so I don't know whether Zarate will have the capability to take him out. At times Canizales can be quite inconsistent, prone to taking rounds off. Against Seabrooks, he could have just maintained distance and use his superior motion to dart in and out and take the rounds, but he succumbed to Kelvin's incredible willpower, got drawn into the trenches, and as a result got banged up. His hands are pretty brittle too, which would account for his lapses of activity. Against Bones Adams, he was losing momentum but came out tops as a result of his brilliant work early in the fight, where the bout was called to a halt because of the broken jaw inflicted upon Adams. Zarate is an all-time great, no two ways about it, you just cannot take liberties against somebody like that. For 15 rounds, Zarate is too much of a mountain to climb atop. The size advantages Zarate holds is very key here.

 

I agree with this. Zarate certainly deserves to be considered favourite.

But Canizales has a good chin and stamina which i can see getting him the distance. While he didnt have the devistating power of Zarate, I do think Canizales lands more often and has enough sting to keep Zarate honest, at his best he could set up and land the hook to the body almost at will.

Good H2H match up. Tough one to call.

 

I think you can probably argue Martinez>Canizales. Certainly in terms of resume, if not in terms of all round prowess.

Davila>Canizales for me.

 

Zarate wins big!

 

In terms of resume...I agree. But head to head, in terms of actual attributes and skill-set that each man possessed, I'd say Orlando is the better of the two. He possesses a better beard, better power, and is just about as sound in terms of technique as Alberto.

I don't see him getting overwhelmed by Zarate, and forcing Carlos into a situation where he'd have to rely upon his jab and work-rate to win rounds. I think Zarate is capable of doing that, but like Sal and RB I could just as easily see Canizales counter-punching his way to a decision victory as well.

Either way, it's a good, tight match-up that would very likely be decided by a margin of only one or two rounds.

 

Agree with you general sentiment, and whilst I should've specified, I would say Dvaila's ability implemented against the guys he fought trumps Canizales ability agains the guys he fought.

Does that make sense? :good

 

Zarate beats the **** outta Canizales.

 

I think Zarate beats Canizales.
However, this is a close-run thing, in my opinion.
Canizales could cause all manner of issues for Zarate and I see it not being too dissimilar to Zarate/Pintor.