The Brown Bomber vs Big George.

I have to change a bit:

Foreman KO2 Louis

 

Foreman a wide swinging slugger vs Louis a sharp shooting strait down the pike perfect combo puncher, I think Louis takes him out before 5-6 rounds if he fights behind the jab and down the PIKE

 

Now pulling an Ali then? Nah,Foreman wouldn't have Schemmling's gameplan and Louis wouldn't pull an Ali.

Oh,wait,so he counters with his quick and huge hands just like he did to Walcott. Yes,that he will do. And then he knocks big George out of his shoes. Brilliant.:happy

 

Two awful and new assumptions here-

1) There are two things a boxer can do: boxer, or be Ali.

2) What happened in Louis's fights with Walcott, when he was past his prime and facing a boxer that was nothing like Foreman, is relevant.

Basically, and I mean this in the strongest sense, both of these assumptions are stupid.

 

The poll results are interesting. Proof that the majority is often wrong.

 

I have little doubt that peak Louis annihilates the post-Zaire, tentative, and burst bubble Foreman. Foremans performances against Lyle and Young just did not resemble the wrecking machine who 'knew' no-one could stand up to him.

On the other hand, the pre-Zaire monster has a reasonable chance IMO (I give him a reasonable chance against anyone except prime Ali), but I wouldn't be feeling confident betting either way.

Does anyone feel Louis might be psyched by the awesome physical stats, mean attitude and raw strength of prime Foreman? If there is any psyching going on I suspect it would favour Foreman? I mean, Foreman manned up very well against Frazier who had an incredible aura and resume at that time (undefeated champ, recent brutal win over Ali etc...). Louis never had to face someone like Frazier so I guess it is hard to say how he would feel psychologically going in against Foreman.

 

No. This is...

 

It's simple. Some people fancy George to land one or two clumsy bombs against a champion a bit suspect in the chin dept. Nothing to do with strategies or technigue. Louis wasn't as easy to hit as some Pro-George's are made out, but he wasn't too difficult either. It's not rocket science, you're over-analysing statistics. Foreman will come lower than all the Top 10 if we're looking at categories- he'd come below Frazier too. Of course, breakdown the nuances of styles can lead to a definite conclusion. However, in boxing (of all sports) just being great in one category, in this case power, can overcome other fundamentals, especially when the esteemed opponents has only one (or two) weaknessess- this being a tender beard.

 

Jim Braddock's a bonafide puncher now is he?
Foreman was downed largely due to stamina issues, we all know that. Louis was dropped by THE MONSTER HITTING Braddock in the first, when he was fresh as a daisy.

 

I'd hardly say the Foreman of Frazier and Norton doesn't put on severe pressure with his size, strength and awesome power either. The man could shove strong guys around as if they were nothing.

Foreman has one of the great chins and has a definite advantage there. Regardless of what some seem to think this would be the most dangerous opponent Joe ever fought.

I still see it as 50-50. As for Joe telling Foreman to use the uppercut vs Frazier, how simple is that? Boxing 101 has told us to use uppercuts vs swarmers forever and a day. I'd hardly say this is compelling evidence Louis knew Foreman better than anyone.