Frank Klaus

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  1. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I know probably no footage exists but does he make your p4p 100?
     
  2. Loewe

    Loewe internet hero Full Member

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    I made a thread about him, Pappke, Ketchel, Carpentier and two other mws which I don´t remember right now a few weeks ago but nobody jumped on it, so I wouldn´t expect much.

    He seems to have been quite a capable fighter and his family name is the same as my second given name, so I like him :D
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Is he the guy with the reindeer?


    Seriously he fought Carpentier, among others ,yet no footage of him has surfaced ,strange.
     
  4. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've got a 37 minute clip of his fight with Carpentier. Haven't studied it much though to give a good account of Frank.
     
  5. Loewe

    Loewe internet hero Full Member

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    Would be great if you could upload that to youtube :good
     
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    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'll see what I can do. Maybe sometime soon. :good
     
  7. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

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    Klaus was awsome. He was a tank of a fighter. The best of the post ketchel-pre-greb era. He gave Carpentier such a bad body beating he was spitting up blood in the ring. I have all but the final round of his bout with Carp in pristine condition. Ive often wondered if the french destroyed the final round because it was such an embarrassing episode, with his manager jumping into the ring in tears to save him from getting killed.
     
  8. mcvey

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    I haven't seen the fight but by all accounts Carpentier got a thrashing,his manager jumping into the ring to save him from a ko.I think it must be remembered though that Klaus was a 69 fight veteran ,and Carpentier,though he had beaten Willie Lewis had not mixed in such company before ,plus he was still only 18 years old.I think Deschamps policy was to match him with these top men in 1912 but if he looked like being overwhelmed to pull him out ,his next fight was against Billy Papke and Deschamps refused to let him come out after a one sided pasting,it may have been better to have waited till Georges was a little older?
     
  9. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've seen the fight with Carpentier too. Klaus just keeps walking into him all fight long and bulldozing him.

    IMO Klaus seems to have been a very underrated middleweight. He decisively whupped both Carpentier and Papke (both of them fouled out of the fight), he unified the middleweight title, and by all accounts, he held the great Stanley Ketchel even in a no-decision.

    Strangely, just when Klaus finally appeared to have consolidated his place as the clear #1 middleweight in the world, he was stopped by unheralded George Chip. Not only was this the first time that Klaus had ever been stopped, but it was the first time he had ever been beaten at his own game, on the inside. Klaus lost a rematch to Chip in the same way, and then retired. Funny enough, Chip didn't last long at the top either, being knocked out in one round by Al McCoy (regarded as one of the worst middleweight champions ever) in his next defense.


    As for putting Klaus in a top 100... no, I don't think so.
     
  10. BIG DEE

    BIG DEE Active Member Full Member

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    BIG DEE HERE= Frank Klaus was one of the greatest middleweights of the first
    half of the 20th century. Of all middleweight champions he was in the top 5
    as a body puncher as he could damn near break a middleweight in half.
    Frank Klaus had a cast iron chin and an unbreakable will in the ring and by the time he finally got his shot at the middleweight title he was getting worn out.His losses to George Chip shows this out as Chip on his best day couldn`t have taken a Frank Klaus of even 3 yrs earlier. He used Carpentier
    for a punching bag as he punished him to the body so badly that Carpentier said he pissed blood for several days after the fight. Georges Carpentier said that Frank Klaus was one of the toughest men he ever fought. Carpentier said he hit Klaus on the chin with his right hand repeatedly in their fight
    and couldn`t hurt him. Carpentier had nothing but respect for Klaus as a fighter. This says something about Klaus`s chin as Carpentier wobbled
    Dempsey in their title fight and koed many other Lt. Heavyweights and Klaus was a middleweight so this should tell you something.
     
  11. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was wondering that myself. It seems like he was one of those fighters who spent everything he had getting to the top, and by the time he finally got there, he had nothing left.