Pea vs. Chavez; Your Opinion!

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  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Good post Bill Butcher.
     
  2. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so was i
     
  3. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Shows just how great Pea was; whilst I ALWAYS go by the official decision when judging a fighters resume, it's clear here that Pernell Whittaker beat a man who was like.....87-0 (75) and one of the most feared fighters at that time who was chasing a World title in a 4th weight?!?!?!!?

    One of the reasons I rate Sweet Pea so high (5th GOAT in my fantasy list!!!)
     
  4. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Why exactly? It's your list, you should judge it based on what you saw.
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    This is a dangerous attitude and legitimises every insane nuthugger on the board.
     
  6. GoD

    GoD 'Sweet Pea' Full Member

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    if i remember the numbers correctly.. 7 out of 9 mexican magazines said that whittaker was robbed in that fight.
    it was a robbery... that said i wont be surprised if todays fans see chavez as the winner. these days sweet science is known as "running away"
     
  7. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    In response to Sweet Pea's earlier comment, it's for the simple fact that fighters could get rated higher off the back of one close decision or supposed robbery for example Santa Cruz would be one of the top five LW's based on the Casamayor fight.

    I don't exactly agree with it but it's the usually the right thing to do. In this case however, it's unfair-It would've been quite an agreement to be the first man to beat Chavez, yet Sweet Pea had this taken away from him.

    Double standards I guess to favour one of my favourites!!!
     
  8. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    It's easy enough to seperate the illogical nut-huggers though. I go by what I see in the ring or know to be true rather than flawed statistics.
     
  9. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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    I had it 116-112 Whitaker could easily be 115-113 aswell.
     
  10. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    I take each case on its merits when it comes to this. When I have a strong conviction that the official outcome was wrong then I will disregard it, but only when I have a strong conviction. I had a strong conviction after watching Whitaker v Chavez. The decision was so clearly wrong that it's not right that we don't count it as a win for Whitaker IMO. But this doesn't mean I would disregard a decision I merely disagreed with but which was admittedly a close, tough fight to call.
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I couldn't agree more.:good
     
  12. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well said, I agree.

    I had it 118-110 Whitaker. I can see it as close as 116-112, if you give Chavez every benefit of the doubt.

    Whitaker was no doubt both the better boxer on the night, and the greater fighter in general.