***The Official Golota Express! Bowe-Golota II - 19 years ago today***

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I hear ya but it's poor preparation for the fight, and I don't mean physical. The camp is not getting the job done. In the NFL, for example, the coach of a losing team gets replaced quickly. Andrew has the gift, the fans, the promoter, now he needs some good coaching and guidance. I'd do it if I could.

 

I like your suggestion you made earlier. Sam has to go. He has done all he can do for Andrew and can`t teach him anything new.

I suggest you train em!:yep

 

He was hurt by that cheap shot Austin threw on the break too. And that last combo that knocked out the mouthpiece was equally hard to watch.

The truth is he won't get any better. only slower and worse. It just seems he has trouble with speed and attacks, he just can't respond. He is like a wall and can take it but we don't want to see that. Golota is effective when the opponent is crude like Mollo or slower like McBride. But speed kills. If only there were a miracle cure for his arm where he could jab and hook like he used to. All he has is the right which is still fast and straight. But Austin knew it and made a point to avoid it.

It's very sad to see a career end. But those wins vs. McBride and Mollo were joys to witness.

 

Hey, guys. First post ever. (Maybe the last--who knows?) I just wanted to thank you guys for keeping this thing going. I've been stopping in over the last year and a half, and the O.G.E. has kept me up to date. It was great reading what other fans--and what a rare breed--had to say and to get the scoop from an insider. Very cool stuff. I appreciate it.
I've not been one to post, but I'm a longtime fan of Andrew's, since the "Tuesday Night Fights" days. I've asked myself why I feel like I relate to the guy, as you have here, many times. I guess for some of us, it's that we see something in him that we'd like to be. I mean, Rumsfeld saying that he redeemed himself after the Tyson fight. Not many people would understand what he's talking about. To them Golota is just a guy who hit some other guy low a bunch of times. But I know what he means, and reading that on a day like today, when I felt flat-out empty after seeing that result--that makes me feel a little better. Our guy came a long, long way since then, when everyone called him a chump and wrote him off.
Golota has said that George Foreman was an inspiration to him, having won the title at 45. Well, Golota has been and will continue to be my role model in the sport, title or not. As I try to stay involved in boxing, I'll continue to be inspired by the way he did things.
My favorite moment in the sport was walking out of MSG right after the McCline-Peter fight ended, coming out a side entrance and just passing Golota, surprised at it, pausing for a second and just kind of saying, "Hey." There'd been a thousand Polish guys inside of the place shouting his name, like he was a rock star, but here he was, just him and a couple of other people, leaving after TKO'ing McBride, off into the night.

 

The truth is he can get better but Sam ain't cutting it, and I love the guy. When I say better I mean using his physical size and strength and working on mobility. Once Golota sets a demanding pace it's tough to keep up with.

 

Yea, it ain't nuthugging. The guy has charisma...

 

First off, credit Ray Austin for doing what he had to do. Golota was ok and if he was not injured it would have been a different fight, they still had 11 rounds to go!

Golota was a special fighter but could make you crazy sometimes. I know as a human being he was a nice guy, that you couldn't help but like in person.

Golota always had a problem in first rounds of fights even in his comeback. Mollo started off good against him, McBride had him in worse trouble than Austin had. The key to Golota was survivng round one, if he could do that then his opponent was in for a long night. No one ever had an easy time with Golota once he got into the fight.

I knew this fight was a hugh mistake with a guaranteed shot at Valuev on the table. Something stupid like this arm injury can always happen whenever you get into the ring. Plus, having the title shot lined up for him had to be a big distraction.

Further, why on earth did they let Golota sit around inactive for ten months at age 40?????? Ray Austin got to have a comeback fight and work the kinks out against some bum five weeks before this fight. Golota should have had the same. He was rusty waiting around for a fight. They should have pulled out of this fight with Austin and gave him a tomato can to beat on before the shot with Valuev.

Golota is a guy who did plenty to hurt himself, and was hurt plenty by others. From bad judging that robbed him of two world titles (Byrd and Ruiz fights), to mismanagement in his comeback. I am sad to see the Golota rollarcoaster end but I am glad that it happened this way and not with Golota flat on his back.

 

Golota was never "flat on his back". Oh, and nice post.

 

Although I agree to everything you said....I know he can beat Austin and it would be so much better for his legecy to beat good old Ray Austin and retire like the good man he is.

 

You knew it but why did he fall short of your expectation? And yes, it would have been, but the reality is he lost against a far superior and physically and mentally fit Austin. You can only wish...... but I don't blame you, bro. I know it's hard to accept the reality of defeat. Moreso, of a person we idolize. :smoke Just remember that times that Golota was at the top of his game and how a good man he is.

 

Originally Posted by lzolnier
If it wasn't for the unlucky low blows Golota would have won against Bowe. I'm not even going to mention Cotton. If it wasn't for the lidocaine shot, Golota would have won against Lewis. If it wasn't for the incompetant ref, Golota would have defeated Grant. If it wasn't for the vertebrae injury Golota would have overcome Tyson. If it wasn't for the corrupt judges Golota would have won against Byrd and Ruiz. If it wasn't for his early round stiffness Golota would have smoked Brewster. If it wasn't for his hand injury Golota would have surely defeated Austin.

Notice a pattern here?

The above is all BS.

Let's face it: We have been awfully good at making excuses for Golota, esentially ascribing his losses to unfortunate external circumstances. When we do this we lose credibility with real boxing fans. We become blind fanatics. The bulk of these losses are Golota's fault and when taken together, point to a deeply flawed incomplete fighter, with both physical and psychological deficits, unfitting of a true champion.

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You hit the nail right on the head, bro. I fully agree w/ your observation. I know it's painful to accept the reality that as fans you overrated Goloto too much. So much so that a star-struck fan forgot that Golota is just human w/ his weakness and fault.

 

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I am just picturing Sam Colonna calmly doing just that, then sending Golota back in there. Business as usual.

 

When the Ultimate Golota Homepage shut down after the Tyson fight, I did not bother with any other boxing forums for a while. Then, sometime around '02 or '03 I was just bored messing around one day and searched 'boxing forum'. One of the first sites that came up was Eastside Boxing. Then, one of the very first threads was one that read "HE'S BAAAAAAAAACK". I immediately thought "Could they mean HE as in Golota? I clicked on the thread and sure enough it was a very long 10 page thread on how Golota was making a comeback. I nearly **** my shorts!! Thought I had seen the last of Golota after the Tyson scene. Six years later and here we are.

Yes, the forums were just as much of the Golota experience as the actual fights, if not more, actually!

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