Was Jones in his best condition against Calzaghe since Ruiz?

a stoner called the fire department and said,

"Come quick my house is on fire!"

The Fireman asked "How do we get there?"

The stoner says "DUH, the big red truck!"



realizm i smell burning embers eminating distinctly from your vacinity.

you pothead.

 

Jones always comes into his fights in tip top shape. Conditioning was never an issue with him.

 

No problem.

You said:

o muchnegative against Joe just ain necessary...He fought a great fight, and if he hadn't toyed with Roy the 2nd half of the fight, he would likely have finished him earlier Joe aint bexactly a spring chicken, and they are just a bit over 2years apart

And I said:

I didn't say anything negative about Calzaghe. But you said it yourself: Is it logical that Jones was in "great" shape for this fight, yet Calzaghe even TOYED with him?

This (the fact Joe toyed with him) has two possible explanations:

1. Either Calzaghe is so much better than Roy, that he can manhandle him
2. Or Roy is way more past his best than Calzaghe is.

The answer is a no-brainer, and it's the second one. Do you disagree?

 

No dispute from me that RJJ is past his best, but no way is he out of shape. After the fight one of the first things he said was he had trained hard for the fight.

Joe C has a fighting style that makes other fighters look hopeless, he has proved that time after time for years. His constant aggression and combinations give him the tactical advantage in getting control of the ring.

What is horrible to see is you don't see euros or the rest of the world dismissing RJJ as quickly as the americans are. Now RJJ is washed-up, a shell of a man.. for christs sake he is your own fighter! How quickly he becomes spoiled goods just to spite Joe C's win.

It's disgusting.

 

Would you call someone who has a drink every once in a while an alcoholic?
I'm not a pothead but severly stoned for basically not ever smoking it
Nice joke:good

 

Jones was in prime condition, he showed more heart than he ever has, he was beyond motivated, he had his speed there, he was on his toes fighting till the last bell, he had his power advantage over Joe being natrually bigger, this was near enough a RJJ who was 26, and it would have shown, against any otehr fighter except a certain Joe Calzaghe, RJJ in this fight was the epitome of ''Great fighter has 1 last great fight'' unfortunately for Jones, he was just never in Calzaghes class.

 

Jones like Holyfield will ALWAYS come in to a fight in spectacular physical shape but that's not what it is all about. I'm a hugely ridiculous fan of Jones but in all reality, he's not what he once was and hasn't been able to adapt the same way Hopkins had to once he realized he was past his "prime." It's OK because Jones' legacy is secure. He was a phenominal phenominal phenominal fighter who is an ATG, HOF, etc. But he's 2-3 steps behind the elite right now and that's OK. As a fan I wish he would've retired after Ruiz, but he didn't. He's showed a tremendous amount of heart which is something that was questioned. Regardless of what anyone says, he's always showed that he can take a punch. His accomplishments are something that nobody can take away. Like Ali and Robinson, he simply got a little older and fell a few steps behind. Again, it's OK and hopefully sooner than later he realizes it before he has too many losses on his record. (no h*mo) but I love RJJ and wish him the best, but I really don't want to drive out to another casino to watch him fight in a packed room full of supporters and leave dissappointed again. I hope he retires with his fortune/earnings/brain intact and can give his precise expertise on HBO commentating again just to show how smart this mofo really is. All hail RJJ and his legacy...and congrats to Joe on a smart fight.

 

Please don't talk nonsense....the last two people you should listen to are the fighter and his trainer. They are hardly likely to admit that he's ****ed, and hasn't ever gone into a fight in worse condition, are they?

 

Give Joe credit for what? Making a fight against a demonstrably shot fighter to enhance his resume? or for winning said fight? :-(

 

This is without any shadow of a doubt by far and away the worst, most moronic post I have ever seen on this, or any other sports related forum. You should be extremely proud of yourself to carry that distinction, well done A+ :good

 

That is what people presume.

It doesnt matter if he actually visible performed his best ever.

As long as he gets beat by Calzaghe no one of his fans could possible accept that he was in good shape. And this is just really really cheap.

Same thing with Hopkins when he got beat by a white boy. His fans send the message:"It is important that you all understand this: this is not Hopkins at his best. So dont give Calzaghe his credit. - Bernhard is simply just an old man now"


Then 6 months later he grows young again and beats Pavlik. And fights his best fight ever. This was bitter sweat for hopkins fans. Because surely Hopkins got pleasure in beating a white boy. But it really renders the excuse that he was too old against Calzaghe useless. That means that the other white boy beat him in his prime condition. Bitter sweat.

Maybe just maybe he was not over the hill when he fought Calzaghe.

He wasent.

JOnes was on steroids when he fought Ruiz!!!!:bbb

JOnes is not shot. But not as good as when he fought Ruiz. When he fought Ruiz he was on roids. Right. And he is not anymore. So of course he was not as good as then. Roid doesnt dabble with steroids anymore. LIke he used to do when he was at his peak.

 

im sure he trained hard but his body just cant be as fast his legs cant be as springy and bouncy as he once was ever again

 

the unfortunate fact here is that because of your calzaghe fanboyship you are unable to even give the matter proper consideration. you might want to give it up because it's completely aborting all your pretences to erudition. there is a water tight case that says so and zero evidence to the contrary. stop embarrassing your self.

 

Except its all valid....