the pathetic chanting of Americans at the calzaghe fight on saturday

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by alba, Nov 11, 2008.


  1. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mate, when you start judging other people based on pure speculation, you have to be careful about that glass house you're in. You looked very foolish. Mate. Have you ever been to Aregentina, or wherever it is you were talking about? I've never heard of it. But, then, I'm American.
     
  2. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The United States landmass wise is only marginally smaller then the whole of Europe.
     
  3. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what by putting an extra letter in a word :-(
     
  4. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It does seem to me like the UK equivalent of a state would be a country. Particularly in the pre-civil war days of American history, American states (and the term was used different then, meaning something much much closer to country than state as we widely them now, even though state can be synonymous with country) were very different than other American states.

    People identified themselves, much as I sometimes see UK nationals do, as Virginians, or Georgians, or New Yorkers.

    The UK is a country. You don't require duel-citizenship to be both a citizen of the United Kingdom and Wales do you? There are so many arguments that point out that while using the word country is correct, implying that it means some sort of sovereign nation state on the same level as the USA, Mexico, Italy, Saudi Arabia or even Ethiopia for that matter is ridiculous.

    Not that wales is any more or less important than any of those places. As has already been discussed, New York may be more "important" than Wales but that doesn't make it a country. Wales may be a country, but to describe it as such while implying that means exactly the same thing as country means for the world's nations is misleading.
     
  5. Bomber

    Bomber Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That just proves that very few people leave the states.
     
  6. TheJuggernaut

    TheJuggernaut Hitchslap Full Member

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    Man Calzaghe has really got you brits talking **** hasnt he! I guess one fighter makes you forget about all the years of ownage by us Americans huh
     
  7. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't you have some flags to go study somewhere? Considering how learned you are, and how dismissive you are of others, I can assume that you are a professor, a doctor, a lawyer, a physicist, a very educated citizen of Wales?
     
  8. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    many years ago the county system was much more important and in some instances they went to war with each other, i am talking in a historical sense.
     
  9. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    But there is good reason for that. It's nowhere near as easy for us to travel internationally as it is for Europeans.
     
  10. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    States and federal government share sovereignty in much the same way as, well, Wales does with the UK government.

    This explains the status of state pretty well (despite being a wiki) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state
     
  11. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no i am english and i live in wales, however the part about being very well educated is true :D
     
  12. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    so did counties many years ago
     
  13. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know the finer points of the UK's parliamentary system (it's not high on my things to learn list, being that it will probably never ever impact my life) but I think that is correct.

    In America, states can make laws but they are superceded by the federal government. Brits, is this the same, or about the same, in the UK? If the Welsh assembly writes a law that is in direct contradiction with a UK national law, which beats the other?
     
  14. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So, then, as a very educated person, what do you do for a living? I ask only because you're passing judgment on others here and it would be pretty laughable if after all this you are merely some clerk or laborer. You are professor, a doctor?
     
  15. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And American local governments, including County governments and City governments also do, even to this day.