How good were Hagler's skills a pure boxer?

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  1. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    As is being discussed in another thread he did sometimes start slow but there are several examples where he just blew out guys or dominated from the start. I guess you could say that was just another part of his game that was well balanced.
    As Mcvey put it Marvin understood pace, if it seemed he was starting slow it was more then likely very deliberate.

    I dont think he was at his physical peak against Mugabi. Plus he was carrying in injuries, maybe more then just the back.
     
  2. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    I loved Hagler's rhythm when fighting. He had very smooth co-ordination with his hands and feet and general technique, but I liked the jerky movements with his upperbody and head when coming forward. It was as if he was stuttering. Anyone who has seen Hagler fight will know exactly what I'm talking about. Thats just my way of describing his rare style when using the shoulders and head in a fighting stance and posture. It usually happened when neither him or his opponent weren't throwing any punches.
     
  3. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not a popular opinion (at least around here) but I think Hagler's pure boxing skills were better than Bernard Hopkins'. More fluidity and a better jab in particular at his best.
     
  4. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good post, his rhythm was remarkable. Would totally befuddle fighters, especially the more slowish, hard punching, more straight forward type of characters. I think Hagler would have put a terrible beating on someone like Pavlik.
     
  5. WhataRock

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    I actually agree.

    I think there is an element of unorthodoxness to what Bernard does that IMO makes him appear less technically proficient then some make out, I particularly see it in his right hand.. But that doesnt mean it is a negative, he makes it work .

    I dont know if Ive worded it right or anyone even knows what I mean here but I often thought Bernard is not the pure boxer many people believe he is but at the same time it doesnt detract from him in anyway as a fighter, if anything its a positive for him.
     
  6. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah I'm with ya Rock. Bernard has technique galore, even if it is an unorthodox technique.

    Ultimately though, I'm more impressed with his ability to scrap than his ability to purely box.