every boxer is either shot or should retire and any opponent is a bum.....all promoters are greedy and there are no sponsors for televised boxing so we must watch PPV which are all mismatches, over-hyped, are garbage or crap. What kind of people keep going back?....and continue to check in on these forums for more? Sick, addicted, warped wanna be's with little or no life except to critisize athletes who put their lives on the line each time they step through the ropes and businessmen who risk their money without corporate support hoping that the next show produced a prospect who can help them save the mortgage. If you all are such experts I want to ask 1) How many fights have you had 2) How many boxing shows have you promoted?
Well while I agree that many of us (myself included) can become too harsh, it is not that way all the time. And you can make very good observations about a sport without having played it. I don't recall seeing Merchant in the ring ever, but he has good insight.
4 Amateur fights this year. I just started boxing in January. Not because I want to make a career out of it, moreso because I wanted to gain a better understanding of what its like to be in a ring. And I have a lot of fun training and in the ring. Its helped me gain a greater appreciation for all fighters since my first fight. Currently 3-1 though I think I should have lost my first fight and be 2-2 to be honest. The only fighters I would ever consider calling shot, or bums, or should retire(off the top of my head) are Gatti, Cawley, Holyfield, respectively. There are others but those are the ones that stand out in my mind. I don't think anyone can disagree with me on the first two, I expect there are some who would disagree with regards to Holyfield, but that is my personal opinion.
I certainly agree with Holyfield needed to retire. Everytime I think of him fight Wlad Klitscho, I think of Rocky IV. It would be sad to see him injured later on in life. I think Jones needs to give it up, and Morales as well.
Yep. Its not because I don't like Holyfield, its that I don't want to see him push his career too far and not be able to enjoy and be healthy in his post-boxing life.
It's unbelieveable that this jerk is wasting his time trash talking the oldest American sport. His arguement is a generalization of the sport and a gross oversimplification of boxing fan banter. The degree of generalizations in this persons flawed logic makes his argement completely irrelevent and pointless to speculate on. Get a job instead of whining about other people's hobbies.
What kind of people keep coming back? Masochists like myself who keep trying to make sense out of the drivel people like you post. I am one sick addict.
Over 50 amateur fights, and interned with 2 major promotional companies (GSP and Goosen Tutor). And i don't come on a message board calling out fans, so how many fights have you had and how many promotions have u been a part of? I'm in the gym 5 days a week. And how many ringside fights have you been to this year? Criticism has been the nature of the game throughout history. Any sport. It's how it is. You don't think football players and baseball players get criticism? It's an element of all sports and it brings athletes to rise to the top. When an athlete retires they are praised and missed, during their prime they are questioned and doubted endlessly, those who deal with it are the greats. This thread pisses me off almost as much as the guy posting it. ****ing ignorant. Just a newbie pissed of his man-crush is getting picked on in the forums, get over yourself.
without challenging our fighters to fight tougher opponents and perform better through our criticism we'd never be able to seperate the good from the great, and that goes for any sport. It's the challenges and proving critics (and fans) wrong that drives fighters to continue to carve a legacy. It's ignorant people like the guy who started this thread who cry because their favorite fighter can't escape criticism that make it suck. Please...we ALL have our favorite fighters, and we all hear criticism everyday. We all deal with it. But in the end, it brings to light their achievements, strengths, and weaknesses, and what they need to do to achieve greater things. There's nothing wrong with presenting healthy argument. Debating and Sports have and always will go hand in hand.