If Calzaghe retires today, He will be forgotten... Here's why !

imp4pdabest · Nov 15, 2008

JonOli said:

Superfuzz that ID fools noone.
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who is he?

san rafael · Nov 15, 2008

Thom said:

But, but, but, but, but....Lacy was HYPED! The facts that Lacy won a vacant alphabet title, didn't face any world beaters before he fought Calzaghe, and has looked horrid since he was dominated have been deemed irrelevant by virtue of the fact that he was HYPED! Lacy's paucity of accomplishments as a pro don't matter because a lot of American fans and members of the press who had never even seen Calzaghe fight picked Lacy to KO him. We all know it's almost impossible to beat another fighter even if they do possess a vastly inferior level of skill when people are saying mean things about you on television and the internets. Can you imagine the pain and shame of being called "Calfaggy" :shock::scaredas::-(( by anonymous teenaged posters on ESB? Yet Joe managed to overcome this crippling handicap to win in impressive fashion.

Joe C. = GOAT. :yep
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:blood

JoeAverage · Nov 15, 2008

jaycuban said:

He will be forgoten because of the obvious thing everyone talks about being of course that his two biggest wins are very close decision over a 42 year old, and the other win against a very shot Roy Jones,

But that's not the main reason, the main reason is that he is retiring at 36... and at that age Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones, James Toney, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis and many others were at the best times in their careers fan wise, money wise, and all with bigger names under their resume.

Calzaghe's only value in his resume are the names of two fighters that he beat at an age that his is so carefully trying and going to avoid, thats why Calzaghe will fade with time unfortunatly even if his undefeated record stand, thats if he retires today.

Or he can take the Mayweather road and retire, wish is the smart road to take honestly, but true champions and true legends are defined by the things they do when the odds are well against them. Wether Clazaghe is willing to take those steps is yet to be known.
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Translation performed online by www.cut-the-bull****.com:

"Dawson has nowhere to go. Hopkins doesn't want him and Chad doesn't have name value enough to make smaller fighters come up to LHW to fight him. So pleeeaaase Joe. Please! It will take forever for Chad to get a name if you don;t fight him. And we don't want Hopkins to destroy this American hope. So please Joe. Please."

Superfuzz · Nov 15, 2008

JoeAverage said:

Translation performed online by www.cut-the-bull****.com:

"Dawson has nowhere to go. Hopkins doesn't want him and Chad doesn't have name value enough to make smaller fighters come up to LHW to fight him. So pleeeaaase Joe. Please! It will take forever for Chad to get a name if you don;t fight him. And we don't want Hopkins to destroy this American hope. So please Joe. Please."
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You actually really want Chad to fight Calzaghe? They are both southpaws, so that would be interesting.

TomaTos · Nov 15, 2008

jaycuban said:

He will be forgoten because of the obvious thing everyone talks about being of course that his two biggest wins are very close decision over a 42 year old, and the other win against a very shot Roy Jones,

But that's not the main reason, the main reason is that he is retiring at 36... and at that age Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones, James Toney, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis and many others were at the best times in their careers fan wise, money wise, and all with bigger names under their resume.

Calzaghe's only value in his resume are the names of two fighters that he beat at an age that his is so carefully trying and going to avoid, thats why Calzaghe will fade with time unfortunatly even if his undefeated record stand, thats if he retires today.

Or he can take the Mayweather road and retire, wish is the smart road to take honestly, but true champions and true legends are defined by the things they do when the odds are well against them. Wether Clazaghe is willing to take those steps is yet to be known.
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WHAT ?

Kessler is BY FAR Joe biggest win.

In fact, Kessler will not lose a fight in the next 6-7 years.

JoeAverage · Nov 15, 2008

TomaTos said:

WHAT ?

Kessler is BY FAR Joe biggest win.

In fact, Kessler will not lose a fight in the next 6-7 years.
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No worries. Remember on youtube, the 'we need to bomb Australia because they allied with the French!'? :nut

The same thing is happening here.

pugilist64 · Nov 15, 2008

jaycuban said:

He will be forgoten because of the obvious thing everyone talks about being of course that his two biggest wins are very close decision over a 42 year old, and the other win against a very shot Roy Jones,

But that's not the main reason, the main reason is that he is retiring at 36... and at that age Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones, James Toney, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis and many others were at the best times in their careers fan wise, money wise, and all with bigger names under their resume.

Calzaghe's only value in his resume are the names of two fighters that he beat at an age that his is so carefully trying and going to avoid, thats why Calzaghe will fade with time unfortunatly even if his undefeated record stand, thats if he retires today.

Or he can take the Mayweather road and retire, wish is the smart road to take honestly, but true champions and true legends are defined by the things they do when the odds are well against them. Wether Clazaghe is willing to take those steps is yet to be known.
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Who are you? I`ve forgotten.

Thom · Nov 15, 2008

san rafael said:

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Sundance · Nov 15, 2008

I don't care how Americans view Calzage, he's 46-0 and has nothing left to prove. He was imperious against Jones, and Hopkins didn't want to fight him.

Danny_Rand · Nov 15, 2008

Lol. How could Brits possibly view that Calzaghe is the best fighter from Britain, when Lennox Lewis is probably the greatest heavyweight since Ali? When Lennox Lewis defeated nearly all the best opposition of his day, while Calzaghe has consistently ducked fighters in their prime and only notable wins are over Kessler an old Hopkins and a shot Roy Jones?

Just proves how low of a standard Brits have for their fighters compared to Americans. Eh, I guess when you've only had a few greats thats all it takes to be great there. In America, a guy like Mayweather who has a far better accomplishment record is constantly criticized for retiring.

Sundance · Nov 15, 2008

Danny_Rand said:

Lol. How could Brits possibly view that Calzaghe is the best fighter from Britain, when Lennox Lewis is probably the greatest heavyweight since Ali? When Lennox Lewis defeated nearly all the best opposition of his day, while Calzaghe has consistently ducked fighters in their prime and only notable wins are over Kessler an old Hopkins and a shot Roy Jones?

Just proves how low of a standard Brits have for their fighters compared to Americans. Eh, I guess when you've only had a few greats thats all it takes to be great there. In America, a guy like Mayweather who has a far better accomplishment record is constantly criticized for retiring.
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I'm a Lewis fan, but he was KO'd twice so has a blemished record. Rahman doesn't rate any higher comparitively than a lot of JC's beaten opponents. Calzage is the man, only Dawson left to school.

El Cepillo · Nov 15, 2008

jaycuban said:

He will be forgoten because of the obvious thing everyone talks about being of course that his two biggest wins are very close decision over a 42 year old, and the other win against a very shot Roy Jones,

But that's not the main reason, the main reason is that he is retiring at 36... and at that age Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones, James Toney, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis and many others were at the best times in their careers fan wise, money wise, and all with bigger names under their resume.

Calzaghe's only value in his resume are the names of two fighters that he beat at an age that his is so carefully trying and going to avoid, thats why Calzaghe will fade with time unfortunatly even if his undefeated record stand, thats if he retires today.

Or he can take the Mayweather road and retire, wish is the smart road to take honestly, but true champions and true legends are defined by the things they do when the odds are well against them. Wether Clazaghe is willing to take those steps is yet to be known.
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Sorry, but if you forget a 46-0 unbeaten 10 year world champion and the best super middleweight ever, then you shouldn't be a fan of boxing :-(

warrior85 · Nov 15, 2008

konaman said:

Bull****. He will be looked upon more fondly with time.
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:good :yep

catasyou · Nov 15, 2008

I don't think so.He will be remembered quite a long time.His fights had the x factor in them.

badman · Nov 15, 2008

As the guys at HBO remark. Calzaghe is a the best in the world.

You will always get haters and they cant do nothing to stop him cementing his status as an all time great.

This is what comes from HBO not me.

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