For those who saw the Haye fight...

I believe Haye's good enough to beat both Klitschko's but in order to do so I think he needs a bit more experience and should fight one more fight against someone who punches big, or someone who's a higher quality opponent than Barrett. If he stepped into the ring with one of the brothers today, I'd pick Vitali to win and Haye to beat Wladimir. I think he'll take Wlad but Vitali is a whole other ball of wax. He's capable though but it will not be as easy as it was tonight.

At least we have some real excitment in the division again!

 

u mad ???

 

They're a different type of robot?

 

His biggest asset in the heavyweight division would be speed.
He has the speed and athletic ability and power to possibly give Wladimir Klitschko some trouble. With that said, he has potential in the heavyweight division considering how bad the division is.

 

Watched it live. Good performance, but too ragged and wild to be great. Threw a lot of swinging shots looking for the knockout when he should have worked off the jab more. Dying to see the replay of the slip/knockdown - looked a knockdown from where i was watching but the cheap *******s didnt have the screens on so couldnt watch a replay of it in the arena!

 

You're a good, smart poster. How did Haye look in this fight? Defense, offense, speed?

 

Yes, I can see his speed and power thrashing most of the upper tiers of the division, but as good as Haye looked, I still think both K brothers drop him like a rock, mid rounds.

His style of not working the jab, and only going for the KO shot in an explosive attack is probably his best chance at beating one of the K brothers, though.

 

Here is my assessment. Haye showed tremendous punching power and good handspeed. He seems to have very good reach and even landed his wild looping shots as well. He is an accurate puncher.

Things I am suspect with Haye. His work rate is not there, he seems to be pretty 1 dimensional with not a large punch variety. Monty was out jabbing him and actually won rd 2. Haye's defense looks wide open, but he did avoid a lot of slow hard punches from barret.

Monty looked really really slow in this fight. Barret also fought timidly, every feint Haye threw backed Monty all the way out of punching position.

For me the jury is still out on haye. I see a lot of strengths and some weaknesses as well.

 

He is VERY good. If it wasn't for Vitaly he could be the bes out there. Wlad is good too of of course. Can he beat Vitaly? Few people through history would be favorites h2h with Vitaly, so it is a difficult proposition for David - but he deffinitely is good. And very fast for a HW. And - I actually think his clverness/brains is the most unique about him. Few HWs have been as clever as Haye. However, I can think of the Klits, so that doesn't help him much against them.

 

Haye certianly don't follow the standard boxing basics of working behind the jab, and setting up your punches.


He's all about winging KO shots, and don't seem to work the jab, hardly at all. IF at all.

 

Defence: Untested. He could have been caught by better fighters tonight, because he was throwing some wild ass punches and his hands are down as usual. It started off okay, its a defence based on reflexes, speed, and seeing the punches coming. Once he hurt Barrett he seemed to forget defence, maybe he didn't need it, but how it translates to fighting the Klitschko's I don't know.

Offence: The thing that disapointed me was he didn't throw a jab all night and he has a good one. He sat back and looked to counter with hooks and looping rights every time, which is kinda predictable. He could have softened Barrett up with a jab, it would have looked more measured. But still, those punches are very quick and very powerful, they were only grazing punches and they hurt Barrett every time. Barrett looked scared to me from round 1, as soon as he felt it.

Speed: Well, what can you say. He looks like a cruiserweight that is already naturally quick fighting a heavyweight.

 

Haye looked fast and strong - but he was wild. I don't know if he will make it past either of the Klitschko's jabs.

 

I'd give him a 7-ish.

He had his lapses in defense (mainly because Barrett was ridiculously wild and unpredictable with his shots) but showed the speed, power and workrate that could take him places.

I don't think he'd beat either of the Klitschkos but I'd favor him over everyone else.

 

He has the best chance in the division to beat both of the Klitschko's. Tonight didnt answer much just that Haye has great punching power and speed still at heavyweight.

 

That was the first time i saw Haye fighting.Does he always hold his hands down like this.It looked like Vitali against Peter.