Do you turn your nose up at boxer who "quit" during fights?

i think callin the dude a ***** is an intial reaction but alot of people consider the circumstances.

 

This is one of those things that personally stepping into the ring can change your perspective on. There are differences between (1) quitting, (2) accepting your corner's call for surrender, and (3) conceding defeat.

(1) Golota quit against Michael Grant (among others). He was mentally out of the fight more so than physically. He was lacking that extra gear that gets past early feelings of pain and a tough fight and was looking for a way out. This is one of the least respectable forms of retiring early in a fight.

(2) Gatti accepted his corner's call for surrender against Mayweather. He was on his way out of the fight physically, and the people looking out for him made the first move to protect him. He was almost out of the fight mentally, and his corner's desire to end the fight was the final sign that hope was lost. This can be understandable, especially when a corner knows their man is out of the fight but won't voluntarily stop fighting.

(3) Cotto conceded defeat against Margarito. He was beaten first physically but looked for a way to change the fight. When his body was finally beaten into submission, his mind followed. He had plenty of reserves but simply ran out and accepted that he had been beaten. This can be done honorably, usually depending on how much of a fight the boxer has put up.

There are probably a few other types; I admittedly pulled these from my ass. Quitting in and of itself is not necessarily disgraceful, and in some situations it can be the respectable choice.

 

No,of course not,no need to get permanent dmage,especially when he already gave his best and failed.Some people said Castillo quit against Hatton.....and then it was revealed he had 4 broked ribes.

 

That was a ridiculous tought. Castillo was beginning to get his rythmn.

 

Yeah, I never got that Castillo quitting rumour. I mean, it was a competitive fight til then, it was clear from the sight/sounds of THAT body shot and the expression on Castillo's face...plus the fact he remains in that crouched position for about five minutes or so....clearly Hatton hit him with the best punch he has ever thrown.

Since that fight, Castillo has gone the distance with Herman Ngoudjo and (at WW!) Sebastian Lujan. Clearly Hatton does hit him with a great shot.

But people HATE giving Hatton credit for anything.

 

That's what I said.Jose Luis won the 3rd.Anyway no man could have gotten up from that but they still yelled ''quitter''.atsch

 

Actually the Ngoudjo fight wa sbefore Hatton,in january 07 in Paris,Las Vegas on the same card as Hatton(vs Urango).After the Hatton fight he stopped journeyman Adan Casillas and went the distance with Lujan.

 

Duly noted my man....I am quite stoned so hopefully that explains my lack of concentration!

 

And the most ridicolous and idiotic yell of ''quitter'' came on july 19th 1919 in Toldeo,Ohio when Jack Dempsey beat Jess Willard literally from pillar to post and when he finnally said enough some yelled that he quit.Such fools even for those days.

 

recent example of Angulo - Tzurkan.
Tzurkan stayed in and fought for 12 rounds but how many can honestly say they'd grudge him if he'd bowed out before the 10th round bell? Tzurkan gave everything he had for 10 rounds and it was nowhere near enough...everything past that point was as close as I'd come in a while to watching a man get murdered in front of my eyes. that's not what i call "entertainment".

Cotto is more of a case of a conscious knock out, in that he wasn't unconscious but he still wasn't able to continue fighting. he was literally one or two punches from being knocked unconscious...what's the difference to you? he didn't quit on the stool, he was close enough in the fight on points that he tried to last till the final bell...he just didn't have anything physically or mentally left, his only human reaction was to go down to a knee when pressed looked more reflexive then premeditated.

even in Calzaghe - Jones, no there were no quitters, from the 11th round and on Calzaghe looked to be avoiding punching Jones in the left eye. why? because even an opponent in the ring can realize the situation, respect the effort but understand that something should be done and it's not coming from the doctor, the ref or the corner.

 

If I turned my nose up at fighters who "quit", I'd be ripping some of the best fighters of this sport. Guys like Arguello, Cotto, JCC, Israel Vasquez, Roberto Duran, Kostya Zoo etc etc

 

Rarely. Only if it's a real disgraceful type of quit.

Bruce Seldon going down from a missed punch against Mike Tyson. That was bad. At least put up a decent effort for the fans who are the ones getting you that million dollar payday.

Roberto Duran against Ray Leonard is another disgraceful quit job. If the guy taunts you, then you make him pay. Duran was one who knew about taunting and psychological warfare. If he runs, then you cut off the ring.

But most situations, Hatton-Tszyu, Margarito-Cotto, Gonzalez-Kelley, etc...I don't hold it against them.

 

Depends. Tsyzu was at the end of his career and was battered badly in a pretty underrated fight.

Frazier was close to death.

But hell, I've seen guys like Eddie Chambers quit in the ring even though they didnt never through in the towel.

So i respect guys like Tszyu and Frazier who go to hell and back and quit when they know they cant give anymore in comparsion to guys like Chambers who never even reach deep down to find something extra, they just give the bare minimum.