Hugo Hernan Garay vs. Juergen Braehmer ~ Analysis Thread

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Usually, home fighters are gifted close rounds and the referee also favours the home fighter to some extent, too. In Germany, Britain and especially in Spain and Italy, this has been the rule rather than the exception. A home decision is worth considering as a possibility, I think.
     
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    So, it´s different in the USA?
     
  3. guncho

    guncho next champion! Full Member

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    Garay by tko!
     
  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    When a famous American fighter is fighting a non-American fighter, the referee is likely to help the American (e.g. Mayweather vs. Hatton; Hopkins vs. Calzaghe), but otherwise, when an American-based fighter is fighting a foreigner, the foreigner is likely to be refereed fairly. Where scorecards are concerned, American judges are fairer to foreigners than German judges. So, on balance, I'd say things were different in the USA, but not great by any means.
     
  5. Loewe

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    BS, since there are the most time judges from many different countries not from the country the fight is alone.
    Why should it be different with the famous fighters? Makes no sense at all. It´s about money and when it comes to that they are all the same.
     
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    :huh
     
  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Any other thoughts?
     
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  9. JoeAverage

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    Where is Garay from?
     
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    Argentina.
     
  11. Stovepipe

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    sportsbetting doesn't have this fight up damn it they take too long.

    I don't know if its ok to link so I will just say that Graham Houston has an excellent preview of this fight up at his site.

    A summary of what he says



    • Garay has already lost close decisions twice in Germany
    • At home in Argentina with a big crowd, Garay easily handled the Ukranian, Barashanian in his last fight, who like Brahmer is a southpaw
    • Brahmer is a superior fighter but its only his second fight at 175 but Universum, his promoter is good at knowing when to move fighters
    • Brahmer is mentally tough, dropped by 168 pounder Velazco but fought back for gritty win
    • Brahmer avenged Veit loss but Veit was at the end of his career and had been KO'd by Inkin
    • Both boxed at a high level in the amateurs
    • Houston's conclusion: "I see Garay-Brahmer as an even-money fight. Brahmer is on his home ground but Garay comes into the fight as the champion and I get the sense that he is one of those fighters who will not be affected by his surroundings and will simply go out and fight his fight. I just think that Garay is being a bit too tough and too much of a volume puncher for the solid but methodical Brahmer and I take the Argentinean to leave Germany as a points winner on this occasion"
    Me personally I like the idea of Brahmer pulling off the biased hometown decision. He can even fight knowing that if the rounds are close he will win. Garay has to fight to put him away and win rounds decisively. There is also the possibility that Brahmer out and out wins, combine that with the possibility of a bias ref and judges cushion plus the crowd, and it seems like a good bet assuming its even money on the betting sites.
     
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    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Thanks for that. Houston is not very thorough but he does get it right a lot of the time.

    Any other thoughts?
     
  13. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Hello!!! You missing something? :D

    He lost to Veit in a very close fight the first time . . . 114-114 and 115-113 twice . . . and take note Veit is a veteran who stands 6'3" 1/2; Braehmer is just 5"11' . . . but you know what? Braehmer knocked Veit out in the 4th round in the rematch last year. :deal

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  14. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Odds are, for the win:

    2/3 for Garay and 11/10 for Braehmer. I think those are fair odds.

    Thanks to those who have contributed to the thread with some analysis. I have never seen Garay fight, except for this:

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    Has anyone seen Garay against Erdei II? Was it a fair result?
     
  15. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Very good input. That's how I see it, too.

    Of course, now that I said that, I've jinxed both you and Hugo since that's been my power for years, so everyone should expect a Braehmer win. :!: