since hopkins beat a top 10 p4per in pavlik, i have him now ahead of jmm. jmm did KO casa but casa isn't even a solid top 15 p4per. 1. pacquiao 2. calzaghe 3. hopkins 4. jmm
1. Calzaghe 2. Pacquiao 3. Marquez 4. Hopkins We need Pac/JMM III to sort out this no2 spot, its getting too hard to split them.
Irony, surely. Not in anyway a confrontation (especially as I was agreeing with you that your rating of Hopkins is legitimately arguable given your personal view of the fight), just illustrating the arbitrary and essentially pointless nature of P4P discussion. The four fighters listed can be legitimately listed in any order, yet people get drawn into 'I'm right and your wrong' arguments about what is a subjective personal preference.