Jimmy Young Replaces Ali In Zaire...

I think he was out of it in the 11th round in FOTC ,it must have taken all his will power to stay semi upright.

 

I think the Foreman that fought under the tutelage of Gil Clancy was an inferior fighter to the one that fought Ali and Frazier. Granted, he fought a little more technical, and his punches seemed to be placed better, but he was not the same tiger that mauled Frazier and tried to do the same to Ali. I think it's easy to dismiss Foreman on the basis of his fight with Ali. But what a lot of people fail to realize is that very few fighters would have been able to implement the strategy that Ali implemented that night. That Foreman was a monster, and he would have steamrolled a lot of good, solid heavyweights.

 

Just on this i'll throw a little something out there.

Clancy himself said Saddler and Moore i think it was had Foreman doing little beside hitting the heavybag and chopping wood in training for Ali. He said Foreman's punches sounded like a cannon on the bag, but got slower and wider and would have trouble hitting a moving target.

I've also heard George said Don King told him to drag out the Young fight a bit as his fights usually ended so fast. Haven't actually seen this written myself, but saw it posted sometime back from a decent poster.

 

Isn't it notable that, unlike the first Frazier fight, Foreman's comeback opponents all fought with good boxing strategies?

 

I've heard that as well, but never with any sourcing at all (not even a quote from an unreliable source like George Foreman) which is really necessary when you have such an unusual conspiracy theory. At any rate, Don King was in control of George at the Rumble as well.

It also seems strange that Foreman would continue to adhere to this policy even when (a) he was losing the early part of the fight and (b) his association with Don King was at best a hinderance and at worst a total block against a fight with Ali.

 

Cheers Kurg, wasn't sure how widespread (or credible i guess) this may or may not be. I'll do some further digging.

Hey, is your moniker from The Highlander?

 

No, my father was from Russia. He was a hill.

 

Ok, i've wondered for ages.

 

George Foreman mentioned in his autobiography that Don King told him to extend the fight with Jimmy Young for a few rounds at least in order to get in as many commercials on the broadcast. Well, since the fight went twelve rounds, I guess it was mission accomplished.

 

Ahhhhh that's where it is.

Cheers.

 

Foreman destroys Young, maybe kills him.

A prime Zaire version of Foreman could only be beat by Ali, who did it by pure heart and toughness. No one's tougher than Ali.

 

foreman by Ko within 3 rd's only Ali would of won that night in africa!

 

Gil Clancey kind of goofed Foreman up for the Young fight and you really can't judge this go on that one. Gil, in wanting to shorten up George's hooks brought his feet closer togther but it was really bad judgment. George's uppercuts were now being thrown going sideways because of this unlike what we saw him do with Frazier, and George couldn't put his body behind his jab or right hands in the Young fight because of those too close together feet. The only time George could "let go" in the Young fight he was way off balance because of this but still came close to putting Jimmy in dream-land. George by clear stoppage if he had replaced Ali under Sadler.

 

It's in George's book.