Top 10 Intelligent Fighters

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  1. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Give me your top 10 ring generals of today, top level operators who instinctively know their way around the squared circle, guys who use intelligence to defeat the opponent; here is my humble offering:

    1 - Bernard Hopkins
    2 - Ivan Calderon
    3 - Juan Manuel Marquez
    4 - Winky Wright
    5 - Joe Calzaghe
    6 - Rafael Marquez
    7 - Ruslan Chagaev
    8 - Miguel Cotto
    9 - Chris John
    10 - Joan Guzman

    I'll admit that it might look very shaky after no.5; maybe a more knowledgable poster could put up a better ten.

    Opinions?
     
    D-MAC, Nov 28, 2008
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  2. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    Ten guys is alot, how about five?

    Hopkins
    Calzaghe
    JM Marquez
    Mosley
    Toney
     
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  3. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Winky Wright is there I'd like Barrera too
     
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  4. zico2010

    zico2010 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I wouldnt have Hopkins at number one, just becasue he couldnt find a way to beat an inferior fighter with a similar counter-punching style in Jermain Taylor. No matter how close the fights may have been, or that some would have said Hopkins won, he still lost to a guy he should have beat.
     
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  5. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    MAB and B-HOP.
     
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Cool list. Oscar should be on there, Cotto shouldn't. Chagaev is a good shout. Calzaghe should be #2.
     
    McGrain, Nov 28, 2008
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  7. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

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    James Toney wipes his ass on Sunday Mornings after he gets off the pot, and wipes away more Ring smarts than Bernard Hopkins and Bouie Fisher have COMBINED.
     
    Jack Presscot, Nov 28, 2008
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  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    It's tempting to think very technical counter-punchers are also great ring generals, but it might not always be the case. On the other hand, we do tend to underrate the intelligence of very aggressive, come-forward fighters...but that might just be their gameplan. If your best chance of winning is to go all out, guns-blazing, it doesn't make you less sophisticated...it could be that this simple approach is most effective, and should therefore be employed...

    But yeah...I also think Hopkins is the man, with Calzaghe second. Not sure about No.3 though...I'm not sold on JMM or his brother being such great ring-generals...
     
    Decebal, Nov 28, 2008
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  9. clubberlang

    clubberlang Active Member Full Member

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    How can you have Hopkins no 1 when he has lost 5 times, no doubt a great and intelligent fighter but he wasn't smart enough to beat Taylor and he fought him twice ...controversial or not!
    His ring smarts didn't help him beat Calzaghe either.
     
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  10. good right hand

    good right hand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    thats a great list,

    imo though i think that there are fighters at least on par with these fighters as far as intelligence but are just not as effective at this point in time in their careers.

    i think the veterans,

    roy jones
    joel casamayor
    james toney
    oscar dela hoya
    shane mosley
    marco antonio barrera


    are all very close to bernard hopkins as far as ring intellegence
     
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  11. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    1. James Toney.
    2. Bernard Hopkins
    3. Chris Bryd
    4. Joe Calzaghe
     
    Primadonna Kool, Nov 28, 2008
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  12. sitiyzal

    sitiyzal ................. Full Member

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    Calzaghe's shown suprising adaptability recently but he's been a tactical ****** in the past. Lennox Lewis deserves a mention.
     
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  13. hellblazer

    hellblazer All-Time Great™ Full Member

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    Lennox Lewis
    Bernard Hopkins
     
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  14. MMA Fan

    MMA Fan New Member Full Member

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    Chavez #1.. MEXICO..MEXICO
     
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  15. heart

    heart Active Member Full Member

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    number 1 james toney
     
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