Who's the best at 168?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Williams27, Nov 26, 2008.


  1. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    how?

    he's beaten, Bika, Andrada, and Berrio........i'd say it's already clear how great of a boxer he is


    same band of fighter as Edison Miranda?.....be realistic, that **** dont even sound right

    who the hell has Froch beaten that proves he even deserves to be in the same ring as Bute, much less beat him?
     
  2. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bute is a good fighter, than easily could prove great. Decebal is underplaying Bute so much it isnt even funny.

    Imo. Bute-Kessler is a 50/50 fight if it happened tomorrow.
     
  3. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    I think the last round against Andrade shook Decebal convictions about Bute. I think it was a bad night for Lucian, and for a bad night with a not very good strategy, it was not so bad.
     
  4. THN

    THN Boxing Addict Full Member

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    eeeeeehhhh yes:think
     
  5. denilo

    denilo Member Full Member

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    Have you actually seen Kessler - Calzaghe? Do you know how Calzaghe preferes to fight?

    Calzaghe plan A was to kill Kessler inside flurry-style, why? Because, like I believe you mentioned previously, nobody had ever seen kessler challenged on the inside.

    If you one day want to see Kessler - Calzaghe, you will find that Calzaghe altered his game plan, Why? Well my guess would be that he was starting to feel the heat when Kessler started finding his jawbone on the inside.

    Calzaghe won from outside, could Bute?


    P.S. What if Bute is not the only fighter to learn from :hey his defeats?
     
  6. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    You're right on that. Of course, Kessler can learn things.
     
  7. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    the better question is have you seen it it?.......Kessler didn't mix it up on the inside with Calzaghe, he was catching him coming in off his jab, i'm not gonna re explain this, read what i posted earlier and then watch this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8tkY7FsNkI

    as i said, he can only fight on the outside......he jabs, counterpunches, or hits him with a 1-2 then moves, thats boxing son...that aint infighting, he mainly catches Joe when he's coming in without jabbing, or when Joe drops his hands and squares up, or in other words when Joe stops using his soutpaw advantage

    Bute does neither, he's a pure boxer....
     
  8. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kessler for now but I think that might change soon.
     
  9. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    1) Beyer and Mundine were top 5 at the time Kessler met them. Mundine even maintained a top 3 for a long time after he lost to Kessler.

    2) Andrade was by no means dominated by Bute. Many rounds were close, even if Bute had a solid lead coming into the final round. The rounds when someone lost big, it were the rounds that Bute lost.

    3) Inkin should be considered, and Mundine still has done more than most on your list at 168.
     
  10. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl. Kessler proved that he can fight quite remarkably on the inside, as he was forced out of his comfort zone against Calzaghe. However, this will not be an issue against Bute, since Kessler will stay at distance like he usually does, and win by a far margin; Bute is too timid, still has his hands down too low. The romanian often win due to his technical skills, strength, and ring intelligence - but Kessler are better in those areas save strength, and in a wide range of other abilities and by good margin still.

    I still think it would be a good match though.
     
  11. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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  12. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Get out of here....Andrade was dominated,that's exactly what that was.
     
  13. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bute dominated Andrade. Well, dominated may not be the right word, because Andrade rarely took at step back (neither did he against Kessler), but Bute won almost every round by a solid margin. Except the last. And yes, Andrade had Bute a little in trouble in round 5 until the ref broke them up and gave Bute a nice rest. But, overall Bute looked impressive in the remaining rounds.
     
  14. mexican legend

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  15. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Bute won most of the rounds clearly. Some were close. Andrade won 2 or 3, one of them was close.