I certainly disagree about work rate, lack of power and jab. Froch has a great jab, watching the Pascal fight, Pascals head was being snapped back constantly as he kept pumping it out there. Work rate wasn't an issue, both men expended a lot in the first 5-6 rounds, Froch was still in healthy shape, and instead went more technical and bossed the later rounds, then really stepped up again in the last 2 rounds, showing he had another level in him, compare this to how wooden and lethargic Pavlik looked against Hopkins for 12 rounds, and his ''jab'' then, Pavlik just doesn't have the tools to take on anyone like Froch, who I believe is more skilled, faster, more power and clearly a much better chin. I do agree someone who was very fast would cause Froch trouble, but Pascal was very fast, it would take a Calzaghe to actually beat him that way, other than Calzaghe, Kessler is the one who would most likely beat Froch, however, Froch can get better, its only his 23rd(?) pro fight, he will have learned more again from the Pascal fight.
As english as i am i have to say the same as ive always said about Froch, an accurate puncher will take him out, and Froch will gladly help him do it... Saturday proves this big time, if Pascal had been heavier handed Froch wouldnt have saw a few rounds of that fight....sorry Froch lovers but the way he carries that left so low as if he has the reflexes of 1960 Clay is ridiculous, i would love to jump in there and test that chin myself its that tempting to hit him.... He could have boxed Pascal into next week as he did in some of the later rounds, but thank god he didnt cause that was one of the best fights ive saw in 10yrs.... Thanks Carl...loved it.....but your a complete dick !
Hopkins beat Pavlik on the floor, with his feet. It was a masterpiece of footwork andf distance control. Pavlik wasn't throwing anything because Hopkins was always just where he couldn't hit him and Pavlik's own footwork is nowhere near good enough to deal with that - he had to reset his feet, by which time Hopkins was gone again. By the fourth round or so Pavlik was often just walking forwards and not throwing anything at all. You can't extrapolate anything from that to a Pavlik v Froch fight. Froch doesn't have good footwork either, nor does he demonstrate any particular interest in not being hit. He would always be where Pavlik could hit him.
Again disagree, I thought Frochs footwork was decent, not as good as I have seen him in the past, but good enough to technically beat Pascal, add that to his injuries, he did incvredibly well. If you believe there are factors as to why Pavlik looked hopeless against Hopkins, you should acknowledge a number of factors as to why Froch looked only ''pretty good'' against Pascal. Pavlik was exposed versus Hopkins, regardless of Hopkins undoubted skills, It was shocking to see a so called ''world '' class fighter take such a brutal beating with no answers to anything. Surely if Pavlik was where people suggest he is, he could have at least offered something, even bulldozing in risking getting caught would have been better than standing there being picked off, Clay shuffled and all around humiliated, he even showed a lack of heart, shameful. Pavlik v Froch... 4th or 5th round KO for Froch.
That's unfair and unnecesarily insulting. Pavlik was coming forward pretty much most of the time against Hopkins. Hopkins shut down his workrate, like he shuts down everyone's workrate, including Calzaghe. Pavlik was getting pounded sure, but he was still there and was still coming forward. That doesn't demonstrate lack of heart, quite the opposite. Hopkins v Froch would go much the same way.
frochs got the longer reach and i think froch has a better chin, i'm guessing he might have quicker hasnds too. froch keeps his hands low because he's arrogant about his granite chin, he would need to be a bit more careful with pavlik though. froch ko 10 in a great fight, hope it gets made.
Froch = 6 foot even, 76 inches reach Pavlik = 6 foot 2 1/2 inches, 75 inches reach Froch is way bigger across the back and shoulders. KP no doubt has a slight arm length advantage which is far more important over all reach.
KP has hardly been that inspring above 160, Froch wouild def had a shot but Pavlik could also make Carl pay for his lack of defence. 50-50 fight at this stage imo, Froch edges it with his chin, so ill lean towards him.
Considering Pavlik is no great technical boxer what's he going to do to set up that right hand of his against Carl Froch? Continually 'jab' Froch's left shoulder with Froch's chin tucked behind it? Manage to develop some instant upper body movement and avoid Froch's 1 -2 combo? Or his uppercut? Suddenly become faster than Froch? Develop a better chin? Fight with his heart through adversity through punches like he didn't do vs Hopkins in complete contrast to what Carl did vs Pascal? And who honestly thinks Taylor hits harder than Carl Froch? Come on guys....we all have boxers we support and I respect that but there's things we know for sure if we're truly impartial. Any hope of Pavlik beating Froch is just that - hope.