GUILALAH: My Current AT Heavy Rankings

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  1. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is That Bert Sugars list or something?? Awful rankings. I dont care what way you spin it..
     
  2. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  3. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Hopkins, take notes. :yep
     
  4. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In regards to Wills. He should have goting his title shot way before 1926. I mean how many NUMBER 1 contenders seat at top of the number 1 rank for ten long years, being denie a shot???

    Wills didnt need to face Tunney in 26 or some other bout to get a shot at Dempsey. Wills earn it long before Tunney went heavyweight.
     
  5. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do anyone think a case can be made for having Holmes at the same level as Louis and Ali?
     
  6. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. Ali
    2. Louis
    3. Holmes
    4. Marciano
    5. Foreman-as much as im not a fan 2 times capturing the title that far apart means a ton.
    6. Lewis
    7. Holyfield
    8. Tyson
    9.Frazier
    10. Liston
    11. Johnson
    12. Dempsey
    13. Patterson
    14. Walcott
    15. Charles
    16. Tunney
    17. Norton
    18.Jackson
    19. Langford
    20. Bowe
     
  7. Bokaj

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    It looks good. I personally wouldn't have Foreman as high, though. He's probably not even in my top 10, but I'll admit that he's a hard one to place.

    Much more serious is the fact that Wills isn't on this list. A man who was arguably the best in the world for some 10 years have a very good case for top 5 in my book. I think it's ironic how Dempsey's blatant ducking of him may well have hurt Wills's standing more than Dempsey's own.
     
  8. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your right..Wills should be in there..I had thoughts of Jackson to..I need to sitdown one day n really put some thought into a top 20 list
     
  9. janitor

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  11. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    So you're saying that Wills didn't do enough to earn a title shot because he kept beating the black dynamite crew that Dempsey was and had been ducking? :admin



    By the way, i have an article that calls Dempsey "a relatively unknown fighter" in 1918. Goes to show you how local the information was back then, and maybe Fulton wasn't as widely recognized as the heir apparent as that article claims.
     
  12. janitor

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  13. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm moving Holmes up a bit, from #10 to #8.
     
  14. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm switching Johnson (#5 to #7) with Sullivan (#7 to #5). I previously moved Holmes (from #10 to #8), dropping Tunney and Frazier a notch; I'm dropping Liston (#13 to #15), raising Tyson and Foreman a notch.

    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. Rocky Marciano
    4. Jack Dempsey
    5. John L Sullivan
    6. James J Jeffries
    7. Jack Johnson
    8. Larry Holmes
    9. Gene Tunney
    10. Joe Frazier
    11. Lennox Lewis
    12. Evander Holyfield
    13. Mike Tyson
    14. George Foreman
    15. Sonny Liston
    16. Bob Fitzsimmons
    17. Ezzard Charles
    18. James J Corbett
    19 Sam Langford
    20 'Jersey' Joe Walcott
    21 Peter Jackson
    22 Riddick Bowe
    23 Max Schmeling
    24 Harry Wills
    25 Max Baer
    26 Jack Sharkey
     
  15. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    It is a prety ballanced list in terms of old dog and new dog.

    I think two gentlemen who might deserve to be a bit higher are Peter Jackson and Sam Langford.