chico corrales vs manny pac

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  1. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Manolo Pacquiao beats Diego Corrales in a dream fight at 130, 135 or 140 pounds...... Manny Pacquiao is a great fighter, while Corrales was a great warrior..... Their is a difference...... In terms of skill and speed, Manny Pacquiao wins a fight over Diego Corrales without a doubt..... My guess is, Corrales takes a brutal beating and the ref or corner stops the bout, awarding Pacquiao a TKO victory....

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  2. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Doesn't everybody?? But, at the time of Diego Corrales foolish blunder / demise, he was just about done as a fighter..... Diego Corrales was NOT screwed outta a real boxing career like the late Salvador Sanchez was..... Corrales was pretty much at the end of the road after his 147 pound loss to Josh Clottey in April of 2007..... His peak boxing years were behind him....:bbb

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    Look, I've owned three motorcycles in my 41 years on earth, and I've been down on the ground at least 4 X over the last 20 years or so.... Trust me, it ain't fun when you bone it....:bart

    Diego Corrales was basically new to riding, and he honestly had NO BIDNESS being on a 1000 cc Suzuki while ****-faced drunk..... His blood / alcohol reading was somewhere around .23 or slightly higher..... That's insane...... Dude, that's like downing a 750 ml. bottle of Barcardi within 3 to 4 hrs...... Getting on a motor-bike in that condition is / was suicide..... Its obvious to me that Corrales had no real friends around him at the time, because, had he had a friend or two with him, they would've snagged his keys...... Diego Corrales was NOT thinking straight...... Cheerio....:bart
     
  3. MAG1965

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    Pacman is a better fighter. Corrales never looked good when he fought better guys. Corrales was not in Pacman's league. Pacman would stop him in 6 in an easy enough fight. Corrales fought exciting fights,but Pacman is in Mayweather's league, and when Floyd fought Corrales he proved Chico just was not in the elite league of boxers. Chico was a good boxer who had a great personality and was a warrior and seemed like a nice person, but as far as boxing he would not have been good enough to beat a Pacman quality fighter. Chico was an exciting fighter with decent left hook power and a rather undependable chin. His fight with Castillo was great, but Castillo was not that great a fighter himself. Chico and Castillo were good fighters at the same level ,but when either Castillo or Chico fought higher level guys they lost. And Pacman is higher level as is Oscar and Floyd. Corrales fights were exciting and he was a credit to the sport of boxing. But I cannot in honesty say he is good enough to be in the caliber of Pacman as a fighter.
     
  4. HyperBone

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    lol at this post..

    i remember the time when barrera fought pac the 1st time... some people are claiming a shutout win against pac... then MAB lost and those same people are excusing barrera, saying he lost due to forest fire, he had problems, he is shot to pieces, metal plate on his head, et. al.
     
  5. Spitfire7

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    I thought you said "ALL factors?" :huh:patsch
     
  6. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Corrales when he had his run at 135 would have beated Pacman. Corrales woudnt not lose to a fighter that stayed in front of him. Especially someone that small.
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Practically, yes.

    Don't slap your head. There are people who think Manny beats everybody, and then there's Boxing fans who consider all factors, most of which favor Corrales.
     
  8. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    MAB, EM and JMM were naturally bigger men than Pac when they fought him, where they too "strong" or too "big" for Pac? No. PBF at 135 and Casamayor were not that much taller nor bigger than Pac, so I fail to see the significance here.

    And anybody can go on and on about them being far superior boxers, it still doesn't change the fact that Chico in his career still had alot of trouble with opponents who can move in the ring. Freitas wasn't that "far superior" to Pac in boxing skills, if at all. Yet look at how he handled Chico in the first 5-6 rounds of their fight before gassing?(which Pac wouldn't do) You don't have to be a super elite boxer to beat Chico, mate. He's very good but not THAT good. Pacquiao who mixes boxing skills with aggression is something that Chico wouldn't be able to handle especially since he's a big target and is stationary and is chinny himself.

    No offense but that's a weak argument IMO. Pacquiao getting sparked in the lower weights have NO bearing in what he can do in the higher wieights. That would only be considered if Pacquiao continued to get KD'd as he went up in weight. But we all know he wasn't KD'd EVEN once when he went up to fight BIGGER punchers like MAB, EM, JMM and the like. The simple fact of the matter is that Pac's punch resistance gradually increases as he goes up in weight. That's a fact. Yes he got hurt a couple of times but so is everybody mate. Even the toughest fighters in history got hurt themselves. That's just normal. But what separates this fighters and Pac to the rest is the fact that they REFUSE to go down. You may hurt them but you'll surely have an extremely hard time putting them down.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Chico wouldn't be able to KO Pac. He can, mate. Alot of people in this thread(including me) think he has a puncher's chance. But its gonna take a hell of alot more than 1 or 2 punches for him to spark someone as tough as Pac is. But it might be too late as Pac would've landed a lot more punches on Chico by then, and it might be Chico going down.

    And I always smile when people doubt Pac's power after scoring 2 KO's above 135, the latest of which was 12 pounds north of that weight against someone who is well known for his punch resistance.

    It doesn't matter if DLH was weight drained and all that stuff. If there is no evidence that Pac carried his power above 135 as you say, he wouldn't have come close to even wobbling the bigger man that night. Yet we all know what happened. And before you start bringing the weight drained stuff, just remember that Pac wasn't in his natural weight class either. That was 12 pounds above 135. Imagine what his power would be(or was) at 135 if he can put a hurting on a bigger man like that.

    The only thing I agree with you is that if ever Pac KO's Chico it will be by accumulation. And that's what I expect would happen in this match. You have to remember that the reason he wasn't hurt that much against Floyd was because it was only 1 or 2 punches coming from Floyd. Floyd was being defensive and counter-punching all night, he would score a KD over Chico (mostly caused by only 1 punch, mind you), then return to counter-punching mode, that's why Chico wasn't hurt. That's not gonna happen with Pac as he is a hell of alot more busy than Floyd. He's gonna throw alot more punches that Floyd ever did with as much, if not more, power and it'll surely gonna hurt Chico. And if Pac sees Chico is hurt, he's not gonna be defensive about it like Floyd, he'll go for the kill.


    Almost everybody occasionally take shots to land his, man. That's not new. Chico will sure as hell do the same as he is not elusive or even a mover. Both of them will take shots to land theirs, but the way I see it Pac, with his speed, much improved boxing skills and lateral movement, will land alot more and KO Chico before Chico KO's him.

    Also why do you keep bringing up JMM in this thread? He has NOTHING to do with this fight. JMM did what he did against Pac because he's... JMM. Simple. If you seriously think that you can base a Chico win on anything JMM did, then your hopeless.

    Oh and JMM did not school Pac. Please get that illusion out of your head.

    Its good to straighten that thing out. But I still disagree. I see Pac being too fast for Chico to land enough punches to KO Pacman. Pac's also got the better footwork as Pac's in-and-out style would surely trouble Chico because unlike before, Pac doesn't slug it out nearly as much anymore. He's more disciplined now. He goes in and throws 2-3 punch combos and immediately goes out. Pac has tamed his aggressive nature and now uses it in a controlled manner, so don't expect him stay inside with Chico often. Also Chico wouldn't be able to defend himself from that laser-like straight left of Pac. He will also land first more often than Chico.

    His boxing skills has significantly improved along with his boxing smarts, I see Pac employing the same gameplan he used on DLH on Chico. That is to box and move around the ring as Chico is too dangerous to slug it out with for long periods of time. All of that while keeping his workrate up. Then go in for the kill when Chico is hurt.

    Great fight. FOTY type of fight.

    Pac by KO. :good
     
  9. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fantasy match ups are Manny's biggest weakness. He seems to be very very lucky though at those other kind, reality.
     
  10. All_Heart

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    I love Manny, but Chico had the perfect style to put the Pacman to Sleep. Manny's relentlessness in this fight would be his undoing. I go with Chico by brutal tko..somewhere between 5-7th round. Chico's hooks were something of legend.
     
  11. Boom_Boom

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    and to think this fight was possible going to be made too

    I remember on friday night fights not too long ago after the Pac-Em II fight, Chico was asked about a possible fight with Pacman, Chico put out a big smile took a deep breath and said "Why not?"

    I miss Chico
     
  12. Soriano

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    I think Pac has a chance to KO Corrales at 135. Why? Corrales lost to old man Casamayor and Pac has the speed and power of a welterweight to knock out anyone in the 135. It has been proven in the 135 and 147. Pac is at his prime today.
     
  13. Soriano

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    Well, it is unfortunate that Pac was younger by 4-5 years when he fought Barrera, Morales or even Marquez. But the reality was these said boxers were the lords of the boxing world then. You cannot say that they were past their prime because Morales and Barrera were fighting among themselves in trilogy at that time. So, how can you say Pac cherrypicked them when they were at the peak of their career? Pac fought Marquez twice while Morales and Barrera (except later) did not consider Marquez as threat to their throne. Do you call that cherrypicking on Pac? The fact is Pac has made all of them old and shot overnight. And I don't think Marquez can beat Pac at the rate he is improving.
     
  14. Soriano

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    Did you also consider that all factors favored dela Hoya to brutalize Pac? And 90 per cent of those boxing fans or even analysts who considered all factors ate crow after the fight. :rofl Don't always rely on conventional wisdom, shithead. :yep
     
  15. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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