just wanna share this article about pac-dlh from a filipino journalist

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  1. HyperBone

    HyperBone Silverback Gorilla Full Member

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    Manny Pacquiao didn't win a great fight
    AS I WRECK THIS CHAIR By William M. Esposo
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    This discussion is not intended to wreck the chair of Manny “Pacman” Pacquiao.
    In fact, this Chair Wrecker postponed writing this column to allow Manny Pacquiao to savor his victory and hero’s welcome. The postponement is also intended to allow the euphoria to settle — a euphoria that was created more by media hype than actual ferocious ring combat.
    This discussion is not even intended to diminish the achievement of Manny Pacquiao. Manny manhandled Oscar “Golden Boy” de la Hoya the way his handlers correctly planned his fight strategy.
    However, it takes two to tango just as it takes two great ring combatants to make a classic boxing fight that could match the Muhammad Ali-Joe Frazier fights, the greatest of which culminated in the unforgettable Ali-Frazier III — the “Thrilla in Manila.”
    Ali-Frazier III was a great fight because both combatants were capable of knocking out each other. If Frazier didn’t quit before the final round — Ali might have done it. Ali was so exhausted that he collapsed after being declared the winner by TKO.
    When Pacman answered the opening bell, he fought his best fight but the Golden Boy did not compliment his effort. Oscar de la Hoya cheated the public and the Pacman by just going into the ring to collect a big paycheck without displaying the form that everybody expected to see that night in Las Vegas. The Pacman came to fight a bigger, stronger opponent who turned out to be nothing more than a shadow of his past greatness.
    It is immaterial if de la Hoya’s lackluster performance was due to rapid loss of weight, wrong training or a left shoulder injury that prevented the use of his feared left jab. The point is de la Hoya did not provide Pacquiao the necessary counter force that would have made their encounter a truly great fight.
    The fight was hyped as a battle between the Biblical David and Goliath. But at least in the David and Goliath story — Goliath tried to obliterate David. The Oscar de la Hoya that fought Manny Pacquiao did not even appear to have the desire to win.
    Some folks I know, including two ladies, even suspected that de la Hoya threw the fight after betting that Pacquiao will win. A $1,000,000 bet on Pacquiao would have won $1,350,000; a $5,000,000 bet would have won $6,750,000! Stranger things have happened in boxing.
    One person told me: “You see de la Hoya is also a promoter of Pacquiao fights and so he could be protecting his investment by keeping the Pacman legend alive for bigger paydays ahead.”
    True enough, the Ricky Hatton and Floyd Mayweather Jr. prospective fights with Pacquiao are now being floated and these are promising to be bigger paydays than the de la Hoya fight. Had de la Hoya beaten Pacquiao, the Hatton and Mayweather fights will not be generating the same excitement and potential revenues.
    It’s true that the fight turned out to be a mismatch. But a great fight it never was. To herald that bout as one of boxing’s finest encounters is to further promote the lies and illusions that victimize this nation.
    The Pacquiao-de la Hoya fight was no different from the Joe Louis-Rocky Marciano fight. Joe Louis, like Muhammad Ali, was one of the greatest heavyweight champs. But the Joe Louis that entered the ring against Marciano was way past his prime and got knocked out. The Pacquiao-de la Hoya fight was also no different from the Muhammad Ali-Larry Holmes fight.
    In those fights, Louis and Ali represented the over-the-hill fighters who did not know when to hang up their gloves and got massacred. No boxing expert rates that Louis-Marciano fight as one of boxing’s finest moments, not even as Marciano’s best fight. In like manner, no boxing expert rates the Ali-Holmes fight as one of the most unforgettable ring encounters.
    And yet, Joe Louis, at age 37, did put up a much better fight against Marciano than de la Hoya ever did against Pacquiao.
    Our STAR sports columnist Quinito Henson gave very good insights as to what happened in that Pacman-Golden Boy fight during the Solar TV coverage. I noted Quinito describing the mismatch as “unbelievable…how come de la Hoya is not using his vaunted left jab…it is not like the de la Hoya we know in the ring right now…how come de la Hoya is allowing himself to be punched without fighting back” and so forth.
    The other understandably pro-Pacquiao Filipino commentators heightened the hype of a momentous ring encounter. I do share their enthusiasm to see a Filipino achiever recognized internationally as this somewhat improves the image of what is otherwise known as the most corrupt people in Asia.
    But, clearly, it was not the great Oscar de la Hoya that a great Manny Pacquiao fought. It was a poor facsimile of the great Oscar de la Hoya. That ring encounter was not and should not be rated as a great fight.
    I dared to venture into this discussion not so much to dampen the national euphoria over Manny Pacquiao’s victory. I am aware that any effort to spoil the national celebration will be unpopular. But I felt obligated to increase public awareness of how we Filipinos are so easily led to accept illusion for reality, even lies for truth.

    your thoughts guys?
     
  2. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee VIP Member

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    best written article i've ever seen coming from the philippines. Its objective and it tells the truth. Something I haven't seen from that country in a long time.

    ODLH was paid 20 million to weigh under 147, not fight a boxing match.
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    it is not a great fight but it doesn't diminish pacquiao's performance. great fight is not equal to great performance. great fight is jmm-pac2 with great performance from both fighters. pac-hoya is not a great fight but a historic one. he failed to mention the other facts like pac is jumping two weight classes and most people in the boxing community picked oscar to win.
     
  4. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    GBP gets a percentage of Mannys purse..:shock:
     
  5. borj

    borj the Pacific Storm Full Member

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    GBP promotes manny??

    and de la hoya intentionally lose to pave way for pac-mayweather, and pac- hatton. (bigger fights?)

    but had he won, DLH-hatton will be big, and DLH-mayweather will be much bigger. and it doesn't have to be split between toprank and golden boy. his GBP promotional outfit gets it directly and himself gets the purse directly, unlike when pac-hatton/mayweather happens.

    :huh
     
  6. Daren_Duong

    Daren_Duong New Member Full Member

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    didn't they say the same thing when oscar fought bernard hopkins?
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Absolute truth.
     
  8. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    I agree in the sense that its hard for a one-sided beatdown to be a great fight.
     
  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Your two last points are made void by how incompetent Oscar De La Hoya was on the night. He was completely shot and drained.

    The only people denying that are fans of Manny Pacquiao, and people bitter about Hoya's riches.
     
  10. Spitfire7

    Spitfire7 Gadfly Full Member

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    Who says anywhere that it was the "finest fight" or anything of the sort?

    Another stupid conspiracy theory... :-((
     
  11. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Now that I think about it, do you all remember Freddie Roach making a big stink more than a month beforehand about DLH not being on weight for the fight?

    It was never made clear by either camp if by Roach saying "on weight" he meant just the official weighin, or the actual weight of the fighters for the fight itself.

    You make a great point DobyZhee, it baffled everyone that DLH officially weighed 145 lbs and then just 147 lbs by fighttime.

    With the stink that Roach had made way beforehand, its got to make one wonder whether they threw it in the signed contract that DLH must be at the welterweight limit for the actual fight.

    A good question to ask is why after DLH refusing to weighin the day of the fight for years, did he step on the HBO unofficial scales right before the fight?Could it have been on the actual contracts that DLH be at the Welterweight limit on that HBO unofficial weight scale?

    Three things point to this being the case.......
    1 Why did DLH weight just 145 lbs officially, he had'nt been a welterweight for almost a decade.

    2 Why did he only rehydrate 2 lbs at exactly the welterweight limit. EXACTLY THE WELTERWEIGHT LIMIT!

    3. Why did DLH allow himself to be weighed by HBO, when he had gone years and years without allowing himself to be weighed on fightnight?I'm not saying this is the case for sure, but it is something to ponder.
     
  12. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee VIP Member

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    that writer will be out of a job and will be fearing for his life..I predict.
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    so let us make this fight an NC shall we? this won't reflect on pac's legacy since hoya is so shot and so weight-drained and any other excuses in the world. did you at least give pac credit for the stoppage. only a handful predicted of a pac win and most of them picked decision as the manner of victory. the way, you've said it, even ivan calderon would stop oscar that night. even bernie4366 the other day said that he could "KO" oscar that night by himself. :-(
     
  14. bulakenyo

    bulakenyo Am I a boxing fan yet? Full Member

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    I dont think he's actually a sports columnist.

    He writes on the opinion page. He just does sports related articles sometimes.
     
  15. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee VIP Member

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    that would explain a lot. Its harder to make your target audience think and ponder rather than report, "Oh, Pac broke a fingernail." (Insert any philippines sports writer)