Did Roy Jones Throw The fight for his Good Friend Joe Calzaghe!!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TalkBoxing, Nov 14, 2008.


  1. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Must be a pretty one sided friendship because Calzaghe certainly wasnt conceding anything to Roy.

    Honestly... you could actually lose the will to live reading utter **** threads like this.

    If you run out of things to type, then dont type, just read until something that isnt bull**** comes to your head.


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  2. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Merry Xmas ya dumb *******!:good
     
  3. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    An explanation behind this thread-

    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2822878#post2822878[/url]

    - which makes this post-

    - all the sweeter! :lol:

    Wrong. Calzaghe hasn't lost and will not lose. This is because Calzaghe is not a great fighter: he's a Supernatural Boxer.
     
  4. LightningJoe

    LightningJoe The Filipino Flash Full Member

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    Genius....pure genius. :yep

    I lol'd.
     
  5. TalkBoxing

    TalkBoxing New Member Full Member

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  6. mattress

    mattress Boxing Addict Full Member

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  7. Otodat

    Otodat Active Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe tends to become more fluid, animated, and better when he gets hurt. I've seen it in far too many fights, and I'm sure that Roy Jones knew this, and that was the reason he didn't go crazy on Joe. Plue Roy Jones is an inconsistent finisher and always has been. Sometimes he chooses to jump in on an opponent when he's hurt them, but most times in the past he's chosen to back off and try to outbox them. It's more likely for him to choose to outbox an opponent as tough as Joe Calzaghe because realistically he knows he's probably not going to knock Joe out, so why not conserve energy.
     
  8. Otodat

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    I'm being serious here, Talkboxing. You have some issues. Either it's maturity or paranoia issues, but definitely some issues. I would have accused you of the latter, if I took the original post on this thread on it's own, but considering the whole, you seem more like a pouter who's favorite fighter lost. Grow up, and seriously consider getting some help if you're really viewing boxing as an example of social engineering. I'm quite sure that there's a lot of shadiness in boxing, and always has been, but you're veering into "Illuminatti rambling" territory. You are simply taking boxing a little too seriously, and that's VERY hard to do at this particular site.

    You don't deserve a prize for that. I have the video. Actually, I have 2 versions of the fight from different broadcasts. Wooptidoo! This is eastsideboxing, most of the people here have the fight.
     
  9. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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  10. SnakeFist7

    SnakeFist7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Some of the post in this thread are priceless. It would seem that many of you guys have not watched RJJ career extensively.

    RJJ was not bothered by pressure, he fought many pressure fighters and he fight brilliantly off the ropes. The difference here is RJJ is a shell of himself, because Calzaghe would've caught many many lefts and uppercuts if he was on the ropes. RJJ was much faster then and throw many more punches in his supermiddle days.

    As for the timid comment, also nonsense. In his middleweight/supermiddle days he clearly went in for the kill, as well as his early lightweight days. He has a bunch of KO's, KOing some very good boxers. Later on he just went out there like a sparing match. Like he did against Gonzalez, he had him nicely hurt in the 1st round, but was content with just outoxing him. After he got KTFO he just became beyond timid.

    I swear you guys are ridiculous with your stories about him, it's as if you guys have never seen him fight. A fight against Calzaghe would've been a big fight. What could Joe do to him in his prime, when RJJ had legs, prime reflexes, faster (5 left hooks in 1 sec), fought superbly off the ropes, was a devestating puncher at SMW, and Joe Calzaghe can't hurt him (if he couldn't hurt a past prime, already KTFO twice, less punch resistence Jones, he is not going to hurt a prime Roy who could take it better and wasn't destroyed mentally)?

    It would be a good fight between 2 greats.
     
  11. Sinew

    Sinew The Assassin Full Member

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    I am not going to act like I know what goes on in the sport , but a lot of people think the sport is corrupt. I wouldn't want to naively doubt conspiracies.
     
  12. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    What would be the benefit to Roy Jones of purposely getting cut, clowned and comprehensively outpointed? Hardly set the scene for a rematch did it?

    Worst. Thread. Ever.
     
  13. MJSaith1

    MJSaith1 Member Full Member

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    Joe and Roy get on well, good for them, but the fight was a real fight.
     
  14. Otodat

    Otodat Active Member Full Member

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    Jones was extremely athletic, but he didn't use movement as effectively as Joe did. Plus your claim that Jones fought spectacularly off the ropes is innacurate in my opinion. I felt that was actually when he was least effective and never really understood why he did that. An example of someone that was unreal on the ropes is Floyd Mayweather Jr (now that's an example of someone that did damage on the ropes; fighters didn't know what was gradually happening to them and then suddenly they'd be TKO'd). Mayweather seemed to choose ropefighting because he knew he had a significant advantage with it as opposed to Jones who seemed to simply be acquiescing to pressure.

    You ought to watch footage of prime Calzaghe because just like the prime version of RJJ is a lot better than the current version, so it is with Calzaghe. If Calzaghe backed RJJ on to the ropes or to the corner, like Calzaghe eventually does to most, Jones would have been in serious trouble because Calzaghe has always matched him in speed (there's a difference between speed and explosiveness in boxing) and could hurt anyone if he got them in that position. Calzaghe also exceeded Jones in boxing stamina and workrate and was more technically sound than Jones, who relied mostly on talent (nothing wrong with that, but at the end of the day Joe was leagues better at using the fundamentals and also dirty tricks). Lastly, Calzaghe DID hurt Jones in their fight, very clearly, and you're being hyperbolic when you describe Jones as "destroyed mentally."

    I do agree that it would have been a great fight between two greats, but the fight that actually happened was quite good itself until it became too one-sided.
     
  15. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He just got trapped in the Matrix too long....:lol: