Klitschko fan, quote of the week!!

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  1. Suge Green

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    Right, that doesn't happen often...so more than likely Lewis doesn't get KD at all, and KDs WLAD a couple times before stretching him out in match ending fashion.
     
  2. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Wlad is the opposite of rough and tough ... especially for someone with his size and strength
     
  3. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    Wlad rough and tough? :lol::lol::roflThat's like saying that O.J. is a nice and stable man. :lol:
     
  4. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Maybe... I just don't think that Lewis had the kind of tools that it takes to do that to Wlad. He is neither an extremely fast, powerful southpaw that can sneak a shot in on him early (I always find it funny when people act like Sanders jumped on Wlad from the start... when he actually backed along the ring, with his back against the ropes.. until he saw a lapse in Wlad's concentration as he backed away from Sanders with his hands down, and Sanders sprung off the ropes and landed a huge left hand), or the kind of fighter that can take a couple hundred power shots before Wlad gasses out. On top of that.. Wlad isn't even the same fighter that those tactics worked against. Lewis couldn't even get past Vitali's jab, I would hate to see how bad Wlad would be pasting him. Wlad has shown time and time again that fighters simply not going to come out there and jump on him, and be successful. Nobody has ever jumped on Wlad like that unless Wlad was already hurt. The bad news is that now Wlad even knows what to do when he gets buzzed, and Steward has completely helped him turn the corner as a fighter.

    In reality, Lewis is a lesser version of Wlad... with the glaring differences being Wlad had better speed, footwork, jab, and left hook, and Lewis had a great uppercut.

    Consider Wlad sort of like Lennox Lewis 2.0
     
  5. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    I don't think that Wlad's opponents would agree with you. However, the thread starter didn't bother to realize that the "quote" he posted here was actually a guy just mimicking what the poster before him said, only he replaced everything that the other poster said... switching Wlad and Lewis' names. Nobody ever accused Fighting Weight of being smart though.
     
  6. Suge Green

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    Don't make Fighting Weight regulate on you again...

    Anyway, you make some good observations about WLAD.

    I believe Lewis has the superior jab and footwork, heart, and more killer instinct. Lewis' jab was great. His footwork might not have been the greatest, but WLAD's is worse.

    I would also point out that ViTKLiT couldn't get by Lewis' jab either, which he was landing at will on the bloody eye region until stoppage.
     
  7. booradley

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    I think you're being a Little rough on vlad here. I mean, it could possibly turn out 120-108:yep
     
  8. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Actually, Vitali out jabbed Lewis by quite a large margin. However, I will admit that Lewis had a great jab when he used it. However, he was very lazy with it, and never used it like he should. I don't think it was better than Wlad's though. Lewis' footwork was DEFINITELY not better than Wlad's... even Lewis himself has commented many times on Wlad's great footwork. He honestly has the best footwork than I have ever seen a bigger heavyweight have. In the past, much like Lewis... he used to get off balance when overextending on his punches... however, also like with Lewis... Manny Steward did correct that. I'm not joking... did you know that Wlad is a good breakdancer? He actually has amazing overall athletic ability and movement.

    I certainly don't see how Lewis has more heart. He has never got off of the canvas to win a fight. He has never even got up from the canvas and continued fighting. Wlad has ALWAYS got back up, even if he was only to go back down again, or stopped anyways. He has also got up from the canvas, overcame that adversity and win the fight as well. I don't see how any of that is proof that Lewis has more heart.

    I also don't see how Lewis has more killer instinct either. Their knockout ratio's certainly don't support that.
     
  9. Suge Green

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    I didn't know about the breakdancing...but I don't think he has overcome the bad footwork like you do.

    When he gets pressed or faces a fighter who doesn't back up, imo you will see the same issues.

    Lewis is a very big WLAD fan. He doesn't want ViTKLiT to have the greater legacy of the brothers...WLad is not Lewis' rival and that's clear. ViTKLiT would portray himself as Lewis' rival, and hyping WLAD up is just a way to minimize ViTKLiT's value.

    That and he seems to genuinely like the guy, but I don't know.
     
  10. drvooh

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    2 things I am now trying to figure out
    1= Who hates the Klit chko bros more, you or fighting weight

    2= Who does fighting weight hate more, Wlad/Vitali/ or Cazaghe

    whichever it is, hate is the key word:tired
     
  11. Suge Green

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    I don't believe KO% is a direct reflection of killer instinct...it is too result oriented, and leaves no room for the psychological factors, which is what killer instinct is.

    While you point out that WLad always gets back up, I'll say Lewis always avenges his loss.
    Lewis has defeated every man who has defeated him...no KLIT Flip.
     
  12. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Sorry, I had added some more when you were responding.

    I don't disagree that Wlad has a tendency to become a bit discombobulated when a fighter is really pressing up underneath him. He has gotten better at dealing with that though, turning the fighter, wrapping them up, talking a half step back, ect... However, Lewis, and just about every tall fighter has the same problem. They also don't tend to have that problem against other tall fighter, it is those shorter guys who can use their lower center of gravity to drive into them, and get them off balance.

    However, his general footwork while moving in the ring, and even the way that he controls the distance in the fight is great.
     
  13. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    The problem with that rule of thumb is that Lewis was lucky enough to have the fighters that beat him give him a rematch. Sanders openly denied Wlad a rematch, and Puritty pulled out of their scheduled rematch with an injury. Not much that Wlad can do if the person that beat him isn't willing to give him a rematch. Wlad even filed a motion with the WBO trying to get them to force Sanders to fight him, but they denied. We all know that at that point, Sanders just sat on his WBO title until he was forced to defend it against the mandatory Brewster, with the winner mandated to defend against Wlad next... Sanders dropped the title, ect... Point being that Wlad can't force guys to get back into the ring with him. Only one of the people that he fought actually got back into the ring with him, and Wlad avenged his loss to Brewster. Even though Brewster also openly avoided the rematch directly after their fight as well, and said that "due to Wlad's actions after their first fight" that he wouldn't give Wlad a shot at him unless Wlad was his mandatory. It ended up happening the other way around, but still....
     
  14. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it would be a good fight in my opinion...nut not cuz wlad is too rough...that is just ******ed:huh
     
  15. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah he is a ***** ask the 44 guys he tortured then ko'd