Best Chin: Naseem Hamed or Joe Calzaghe?

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  1. LHL

    LHL Captain Freedom Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl you can add julian simmons the guy on the left


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  2. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nazeem has been wobbled on several occasions whereas Joe always pops up and never seemed really wobbled.

    Joe clearly.
     
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  3. heidegger

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    I don't know a helluva lot about Naz's chin. Calzaghe's chin, however, now there is something to behold. I rarely find myself wanting to praise the ****, but his chin - I do believe it is forged out of titanium. In Rd. 4., when Kessler landed those right uppercuts, I do not understand how it is possible to absorb a blow like that and stay conscious, let alone stil standing. He just shook it off and kept coming! Utter freak.
     
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  4. HOF

    HOF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Chin is fundamental to being a GREAT champion. If a fighter knows he has a great chin he is able to put himself in harm's way as he knows he can take a blow and come back stonger. This is linked to fighting heart. And in terms of fighting heart these two names do not belong in the same sentence.
     
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  5. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    It's not clear one way or the other in my mind. If I made a close examination it might reveal something, but offhand I can't really seperate them. Both guys got hit with alot of stupid shots. Generally better caliber fighters don't take the risks that you found with these two, particularly Hamed, who could have cut down on all knockdowns entirely if he had been the least bit conservative.
     
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  6. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Quality.
     
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  7. Realspitts

    Realspitts Boxing Addict Full Member

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    most of naz' knockdowns were due to his unorthodox off balance style. and i've seen joe more hurt when knocked down...

    tough to call but i gotta say joe b/c he was caught more flush & hurt, yet still came back to win.
     
    Realspitts, Dec 29, 2008
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  8. Small Print

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    The issues with Joe's chin are a bit strange. He's been hit by better shots than he's been put down with, although the Mitchell knockdown was a peach, which would have knocked alot of other fighters out. Naz was never as hurt, but I reckon Joe's took better shots than Naz (Kessler uppercut R4, Jones Uppercut R6.)
     
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  9. DINAMITA

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    And I always had you pegged as a serious Calzaghe cumguzzler as well...
     
    DINAMITA, Dec 30, 2008
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  10. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Salem and perhaps even Bika stunned him once.

    It doesn't really count as being hurt mind, Calzaghe doesn't actually feel pain like normal people when he is in a fighting mindset. Without feeling pain he cannot actually be hurt by definition, only suffer slight momentary discombobulation of his equilibrium.

    Hamed can be Hurt.



    Hamed also tended to move with punches, whereas Calzaghe would forcefully headbutt the fighters gloves. Calzaghe has been hit hard many times more as a result of this.
     
    China_hand_Joe, Dec 30, 2008
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  11. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    You don't know what the **** you're talking about :-(
     
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  12. teke

    teke Titans Time !!! Full Member

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    down 3 times from single punches imo isnt one of the best chins in boxing
     
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  13. DINAMITA

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    I think you are seriously overrating Calzaghe's chin. It is nowhere near as strong as Toney's or Hopkins's IMO. Calzaghe has been visibly hurt a good few times. How many times have you seen Hopkins or Toney hurt? I would argue Hopkins has been noticeably hurt once (he was pretty hurt vs Mercado - at high altitude) and Toney twice (hurt a little vs Johnson and Peter at heavyweight).
     
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  14. ThePlugInBabies

    ThePlugInBabies ♪ ♫ Full Member

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    i'm a big calzaghe fan. he is or was my favourite active fighter but i'll give him stick or in this case point out weaknesses when nescesarry.
     
    ThePlugInBabies, Dec 30, 2008
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  15. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    I read what you said about me in the Lounge by the way, pretty low IMO.
     
    DINAMITA, Dec 30, 2008
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