Compare/contrast Pernell Whittaker and Floyd Mayweather Jr.?

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  1. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I will excuse your username......

    It is just a hunch on my part, having watched a few of their respective fights.

    You would agree though that Whitaker as less 'judge friendly' than Floyd?

    Read my first post - Whitaker is better (all round).......
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Whitaker should be more judge friendly. He throws way more punches. He always looks active in there and he was never on his bicycle as much.

    The only thing I worried about with Whitaker is if you are a blind ass judge it looked like shots were landing when they weren't with Whitaker's head and body movement.
     
  3. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Pea :****
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    (Pernell was not afraid to fight the best)

    He fought the Cotto's, Williams, Margarito's ect of his era.
     
  4. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    You'll excuse my user name? Right, because if I had a different user name that would take away from the FACTS I just presented in regards to their punch outputs?

    I would agree that Whitaker was less "judge friendly" because he fought in more bouts with "corrupt judges". His style was certainly not less judge-friendly. Watch either of the two fights the TS mentioned (against McGirt) to get a good idea of just how high a gear Whitaker could switch into.
     
  5. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Well.........

    As I said, I haven't seen that much of either... about five or six fights of Whitaker, probably 8 of Floyd. I will try to watch the aforementioned fights and report back - you ain't talking a troll, I can only report on what I have seen!
     
  6. imp4pdabest

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    Well I think its an honor for a guy like PBF to even be compared to a legend like Pernell. I dont see Margo, Cotto or PW getting compared to legends or debates about them being better than legends
     
  7. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sometimes I hate threds about Mayweather. Pick him to win and his haters call you a nuthuger, pick him to lose and his souporters call you a hatter.
    So at the risk of being acaused of being a hater...Whitaker by decision. He has the defense to make Mayweather miss, and the offensive work rate to impress the judges. At 135 he also had the power to make Mayweather pay.
    This is not by any means a walk over. I can't think of anyone 130-147 (insert name hear and I will probbly dissagree with you) who would have an easy time with Mayweather and he might even win a few rounds.
     
  8. Bazooka

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    I would pick Whitaker dominate wide UD, Whitaker is the master if hit and dont get hit, and Whitaker un like Floyd had the balls to take some tuff fights against fighters who were in their prime.
     
  9. jaco

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    I can't understand why so many people think Floyd was better offensively than Whitaker, it's simply not true. Sweet Pea had far better punch output, a much more potent jab and was a great body puncher. I don't think he's that far behind in terms of power either, neither of them have that many knockout wins over top competition (Most of Mayweather's came against weak opposition). Whitaker often gets underrated in the power department, sure he was no Tommy Hearns but he capable of keeping any opponent honest. I'd say there speed is pretty even as well.

    About the fight, Whitaker wins in a competitive but clear fight, probably about 8-4. His superior workrate would give him the advantage in the judges eyes, and It would likely take Mayweatherr a good three or so rounds to really get into the fight (As it always does). Whitaker's southpaw stance would really trouble Floyd, as he has admitted that he struggles against them. The jab would be the key weapon for Sweet Pea, as it is a weapon that Floyd has had soem troubles with in the past. Power would be irrelevant as both figthers lack the ability to knock eachother out. I suspect it would be a good technical fight, but Whitaker would clearly come out on top.
     
  10. Danny_Rand

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    Both defensive masters, but Whitakers defensive abilities were more athletically based. Mayweather is far more technical. Whitaker was past it as soon as he hit is 30's, Mayweather is like a James Toney, who's technical ability will carry him if he chooses to continue fighting when some of his natural skills like his speed fade.

    AS for the fight itself, I'd choose Mayweather by close decision. I feel he was the stronger puncher and his power would be the difference in a generally tactical affair. Floyds right hand lead punches will look far better being rolled on Whitakers chin then Whitakers punches landing on Floyds arms.
     
  11. SnakeFist7

    SnakeFist7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If you look at Floyd's earliest fights he tries to fight JUST LIKE Sweetpea. It's almost like he tries way too hard. As he progressed as a fighter he gradually started to be more himself, I guess. Not sure if anyone has noticed this. And by earliest fights I'm talking first 10 fights or so as a pro.
     
  12. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And yet a mid 30's Whitaker did about as well against a prime DLH as a prime Mayweather did against a mid 30's DLH. :lol:

    By the way, the reason Whitaker started to fade was because he became a full blown drug addict. It had nothing to do with being technically unsound.
     
  13. SnakeFist7

    SnakeFist7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd did have Knockouts over top competition (most of his wins at Superfeather were by KO and he fought, mostly, top guys) at Super feather, likewise in his last fight he KO'd Hatton. At Superfeather Floyd was known as a Boxer with a lot of power. That doesn't mean he beats him, but this isn't about beating each other, but a comparison.
     
  14. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Whitaker lost. A close disputed decision. But he lost. Mayweather cleared Oscar by atleast 4 rounds. At 154 in his 5th weight class aswell.

    Never said technically unsound. That would be foolish. Said he relied more on his athleticism. Whatever the reason for his decline. Many consider Floyd prime now, in comparison Whitaker was exiting his at Floyds age.
     
  15. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sweet Pea did just about everything better then Mayweather up until the end of his career...The only that Floyd clearly did better was retiring well before his expiry date and laying off the coke. And punching power of course.

    I recommend really watching as much film of both before making a comparison. Also doing a little bit of research on their careers and level of opposition.

    It certainly would be a good fight between them...One I just cant envisage Whitaker losing.