Lennox Lewis vs Mike Tyson, prime for prime, who wins?

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  1. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson threw some hard shots. Some landed and one in round 8 put him down. I would not say that the shot that put Douglas down as a good indicator that he was "committed to winning." A committment is more than that. Douglas got up. Then what happened...? Douglas was the man committed to winning in there.

    Nineteen years ago Duran lost every round against Leonard and with one right hand in round 11 opened Leonard's eye right up. That thing was spouting blood like Moby Dick. Duran saw the shot and capitalized. Does that suggest that Duran was committed to winning?

    A committment to winning is something more than what you suggest.
     
  2. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    The round ended. :D



    If that's not aesthetic value then what is? There's a reason that it is the most famous and poster-ized photograph of that fight. I'd be interested in seeing the pictures of that fight that you find more aesthetically appealing, though.
     
  3. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here's a picture for you to consider:

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    Better form too.
     
  4. groove

    groove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the tyson of 88 was a million times better than the tyson of the 90s. Holyfield and Lewis in no way fought Tyson at his peak. lewis could beat a past his best holyfield and a washed up tyson - wow big deal. even a fat overweight slow foreman could win a title in the 90s. and that shows how overrrated those 90 fighters are - no way it would happen in the 70s. Ali, frazier, 1973 peak foreman, holmes, norton, quarry, lyle, shavers, bonavena, ellis, young were all good and a lot better than nowadays outashape wannabees. a fat slow old foreman showed how easy it was.
     
  5. JohnThomas1

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    Old Foreman was lucky on a number of fronts. If you think Lewis wouldn't run riot among your named crop you need to think again.
     
  6. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    If guys like McCall and Rahman could blast Lewis out early, it stands to reason a prime Mike Tyson would be able to take advantage of those shaky whiskers.
     
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    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bingo, this guy is made out to be some wonder unbeatable superman but got waxed in more than humiliating fashion by ONE shot not ONCE but TWICE by ordinary C level fighters whose only claim to fame is landing ONCE on those shaky whiskers.

    Rahman never ever ko'ed anybody worth a lick besides Sanders and that was not even a clean KO, more a typical out gasing Golfer.

    McCall ? The terrible human octopus china chin Akinwande ? Or the green beyond green glass chinned Oleg? LOL, those two guys get put to sleep by just mentioning a blow.........
     
  9. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    Another comprehensive, in-depth analysis by the Zakman, NOT.
     
  10. Doppleganger

    Doppleganger Southside Slugger Full Member

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    It's probably a credit to Lewis that his haters can only bring up the same tired old lines when trying to guess the winner of a mythical match-up. A back-handed compliment if you like. In essence you're focusing in why Lewis will lose and not why Tyson will win. Surely it should be the other way around?
     
  11. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Never argue with Tyson fans. I've learned that after 8 1/2 years on forums. The worst bunch to debate with. In one ear, out the other. Not all his followers, although most.
     
  12. ChrisPontius

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  13. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That rocky first round that Tyson gave Lewis, would be in a prime vs prime scenario, a first round kayo for Tyson.
     
  14. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I have already picked Tyson and have listed my reasons in depth why I believe he should be slightly favored in a prime for prime scenario. I agree however that too much is made of the McCall and Rahman losses, and I acknowledge that Lewis would certainly be a real threat to even a peak Tyson who dominated the division. If life were that simple to where we could just reduce the analysis to " if MCcall did it and Rahman did, then couldn't ?????? do it? ", then what's the explanation for Lewis destroying men like Ruddock, Briggs, Golata, Grant, Bruno and many others who's capabilities exceed McCall and Rahman's?
     
  15. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I still don't understand how that first round helps a Tyson arguement. Lewis clearly hurt Tyson with uppercuts in the first round and Tyson said as much in the corner, after the round ended. Lewis also manhandled him throughout the round. Yes Tyson landed some good blows and showed some of his famous aggression, but Lewis did something more importantly, he showed us, and more importantly, Tyson, the formula necessary to beat him. Then when on to execute this formula in the subsequent rounds.