Does Dawson present a more difficult challenge, to Calzaghe, then Kessler did?

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  1. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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    Equal.Calzaghe would win a competitive decision over Dawson.
     
  2. Snarky

    Snarky New Member Full Member

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    Mentioning Dawson's southpaw stance, height and speed doesn't make him tougher than Kessler for Calzaghe. Dawson is a great talent but I think he has even less of a chance to figure out Calzaghe than Kessler did (he was actually successful at times). Chad impressed me when I saw him against Adamek, but against Johnson and Tarver he dissapointed me. He showed very poor countering skills and looked very repetitive. I think Kessler's style gave Calzaghe more problems than what Dawson gives him.
     
  3. drama

    drama Active Member Full Member

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    Dawson is definitely a harder fight than Kessler. Kessler is one dimension and overated he didn't know what to do once Joe change his tactics. Chad was struggling with Johnson and so changed his tactics started boxing and got the win! a lot of fans didn't like it some claim Johnson won but it was a clear Chad win fo rme.
     
  4. Slider75

    Slider75 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He probably didn`t, most people in here only know Kessler from videoclips they seen on youtube! I have seen all Kesslers fights since he turned pro in 98, and i have been watching as many fights as possible of Dawson! and i can`t see Dawson come up with anything, that would make him more difficult than Kess.. except his taller! Joe is a pressure fighter, and wee seen Dawson struggle against Johnson when he put pressure on him.. imagine what Joe would do to him! i would even go as far as say Joe could probably take him by TKO in late rounds! if not he would beat him by wide UD!
     
  5. Slider75

    Slider75 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, Dawson struggled against Johnson in 10th 11th and 12th round and ome mid-rounds! Dawson had the better ones in the early runds....!? then how could Dawson change his tactics?:huh
     
  6. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    Yes, Dawson is bigger, stronger, faster, and a tall south paw with a long reach. He will pose many problems for Calzaghe
     
  7. Tro

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    Calzaghe ducked Johson all together.
     
  8. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Are you sure you've watched extensive video of both fighters? Anyway, the speed, combination punching, sharp jab, southpaw stance, inside fighting, uppercuts, footwork, ability to adapt and body work by Dawson all make him a tougher fighter for Joe than Kessler. Kessler is a good fighter. However, he's not much of an inside fighter. He's not particularly fast, and he doesn't work the body. Offensively, he's very jab dependant and his only real effective combo is the jab, double, jab, right hand. He's not all that fluid with his combos. Against a southpaw like Joe, Kessler's offense was mostly nullified. He couldn't handle Joe on the inside and seemed confused for a good stretch of that fight.

    Joe is not a pressure fighter in the classical sense. He even said before the Hopkins fight that he's not at his best when he has to chase guys around(that doesn't sound like a presure fighter to me). Johnson has pretty much mastered the pressure style of fighting. He constantly has his guard up when he's on the attack(Joe leaves himself open) and throws a lot of power shots from different angles. Joe definately presents problems for Dawson. However, the Johnson fight really wouldn't be relevant in analysing a Dawson/Calzaghe fight. Calzaghe does not fight like Johnson at all. A TKO by Calzaghe is highly unlikely. He doesn't have much power at this point in his career, and Dawson is too young and active to get taken out by a B.S stoppage.
     
  9. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Dawson got into the most trouble when he was staying on the inside and banging with Johnson. Johnson's defense was better than anticipated and Dawson wasn't able to score as often as he thought he would be able to. When Dawson moved and boxed Johnson from the outside, he was very succesful. Towards the end of the fight, Dawson got away from boxing and started banging on the inside with Johnson again. If you look at round 10, Dawson was controling most of that round. Towards the end, he stood in front of Johnson for too long and got caught with a counrt right hook. The one punch lost tha round for him.
     
  10. Monstar

    Monstar The Future.. Full Member

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    obviously...he's a bigger, faster, more versatile southpaw who hits harder

    and i'm a fan of Kessler....anyone who disagrees is in La-La Land
     
  11. imp4pdabest

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    Thank you. His vsatility is what makes the difference
     
  12. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Versatility? He is has one pace, the plodding Johnson put on a l;il bit pf pressure and he didnt know what to do with him, he has a weak defence, questionable chin and does not hit harder than Kessler at all, what on his record shows that he is a big puncher?

    Dawson poses a problem because he is a southpaw and a counter puncher, nothing more than that.
     
  13. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Slightly off-topic maybe, but does anyone know what's all this about Dawson failing a drug test? According to Boxrec (that most reliable of sources), his win over Aundalen Sloan in his 15th ro bout was changed to a no contest due to Dawson failing a post-fight drug test.
     
  14. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    [quote="TKO";3210004]Slightly off-topic maybe, but does anyone know what's all this about Dawson failing a drug test? According to Boxrec (that most reliable of sources), his win over Aundalen Sloan in his 15th ro bout was changed to a no contest due to Dawson failing a post-fight drug test.[/quote]

    Wikipedia says he failed a test for marijuana and was suspended for six months...
     
  15. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joes been fighting a world title level since 97, his cv is proven while Dawson is a massive question mark.

    Dawson lovers on esb saying Dawson is quick slick and versatile doesnt make it true, Glen Johnson who is decent world level compaigner but nothing a dozen other fighters couldnt handle, gave him all the trouble in the world and Glen is one of the more one dimensional fighters in the division!

    Im not saying he isnt a decent fighter or not a world class one, but he certainly isnt ahead of Calzaghe in anyway and to put him ahead of Hopkins is a bit of a stretch...