Cut prone fighters

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by AlFrancis, Jan 13, 2009.


  1. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why is it that whenever there is a head to head on here when one fighter is subsestable to cuts the said fighter gets stopped on cuts even though during their career they might of won a lot of their fights while hampered by cuts.
     
  2. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    A lot of times it's an easy way out for picking a fantasy matchup, and other times it's legitimate reasoning. I'd pick someone like Duran to stop Napoles on cuts for instance because of the pace the bout would undoubtedly be fought at. I just don't see Napoles's soft skin holding up to Duran's punishment in that kind of a high paced bout, even if he's dishing out his fair share in return.
     
  3. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with that to an extent but I still think that some people use it as an easy opt out. A lot of the more skilful boxer types regularly boxed their way through cut problems. The reason I started the thread was because of an earlier thread I put up between Mcgowan and Harada. I think Mcgowan could of given Harada nightmares but it's just that same old cut eye thing again.
     
  4. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Al, i don't think picking McGowan to lose on cuts to a buzzsaw swarmer like Harada is an example of taking the easy way out.Imo it's a very probable outcome.Even in fights he was winning quite easily like Chionoi he was busted up.HIs skin as probably the biggest factor he didn't hang around for a lot longer.

    I've no doubts there are a lot of excellent flyweights McGowan could get cut against where it wouldn't spell doom for him.Accavallo,Canto, arbachakov and other largely outside based technical fighters.
     
  5. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it's because in most cases it's a less than insulting way of thinking that a fighter would get KO'd. It's a nice inoffensive way of saying "This guy would KO that guy but he's a tough guy and I like him so we'll call it on cuts."

    There ARE some guys who would get cut up though. Gatti is the easiest name to remember in that category.
     
  6. dnr0720

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    Picking someone to lose on cuts is a tough grasp. Example Ray Mancini was a known bleeder and you would have thought Camacho would bust him up.. But after the fight Mancini had no Cuts or swelling. So even though someone maybe prone to cuts it's really hard to say for sure someone would stop someone else on cuts. The odds maybe good but you never really know
     
  7. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not really on subject but I was watching Ali-Cooper 2 for the first time in a while recently; amazing that going into the 6th round Henry was uncut and that one over-the-top right hand early on turned Cooper into a catsup commercial. Actually a better fight than I remembered - semi-competitive...
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    Well Camacho was reasonably feather fisted and hardly a slashing electric type puncher.
     
  9. RNONV

    RNONV New Member Full Member

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    Chuck Wepner was the " Bayone Bleeder" for good reason.