p4p hopkins over mayweather?? i disagree....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Hollywoodxxl, Aug 15, 2007.


  1. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    Bhop cant be p4p over floyd for the simple fact the only guy he beat that was bigger then him was Tarver. Everybody else were smaller guys moving up to fight outside there prime or good weights. No way tito or ODH was any kind of middleweight. Taylor beat him the second fight and the first was a boring draw. But he is not over Floyd. He got the names but if you are the bigger man then how can you claim to be p4p if you aint fighting bigger guys. No way.
     
  2. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just hope the fight happens I won't give Calzaghe a lot of credit for beating Hopkins, but there would at least be the chance to enlighten a lot of people to as how brilliant a boxer Joe Calzaghe is.
     
  3. dave82

    dave82 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can understand that :good
     
  4. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is what I'd expect to happen.




    *Calzaghe - Hopkins is made in 2008.*


    American fan: Hopkins is too skilled for Calzaghe.

    China_hand_Joe: Hopkins hasn't the stamin, the punch out put to compete with Joe Calzaghe, nor has he the power to hurt Calzaghe. Calzaghe can simply outwork Hopkins, irregardless of any skill diffrential. In short, Hopkins is too old at this point in time to compete with Joe Calzaghe. The thing is it will be Americans shouting out how Hopkins was an old man after the fight.

    American fan: Who has Calzaghe ever beat? Hopkins beat Wright! Hopkins is too skilled!



    *Calzaghe outworks Hopkins to a comfortable enough decision.*



    American fan: Hopkins aged overnight, he was shot, that is how Calzaghe won.

    China_hand_Joe: China_hand_Joe did point out Hopkins was too old to really compete.

    *American fan comes to a realistation*

    American fan: You were right China_hand_Joe.

    China_hand_Joe: China_hand_Joe is always right, agreed?

    American fan: Yes, you have a perfect track record.

    China_hand_Joe: Then we can agree China_hand_Joe is probably right about Joe Calzaghe been the best fighter of the past decade.

    American fan: Yes.
     
  5. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Stop with the anti american bull****. Learn to formulate a ****ing opinion and prove it with fact and history, rather than some ******** american fan picks the american fighter trash.

    I love Calzaghe, he is a great ****ing fighter. I was one of the few (european, american and otherwise) that picked him to beat Lacy and if he were to beat Hopkins, he would get all the credit in the world from me.

    Its funny how all the anti Hop posters seem to bring up the age thing EVERY ****ING TIME HE FIGHTS...but when he lost to Taylor, none of the Hopkins fans used this as an excuse?

    Grow a pair and formulate a real arguement please.

    BTW....Hop UD....too good defensively and lightyears ahead of anyone Joe has ever shared a ring with (and yes, Im counting Eubank)....EVEN AT 40+!!!
     
  6. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is exactly why the fight needs to happen. So I can free people with similar views to you from the wrath of the boxing media. It is promising that you have Calzaghe ranked number 3 pound for pound though.
     
  7. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    LOL....and regardless of your anti american bs...your still p4p the funniest mutha****a on here. BUT, Joe has earned what he has earned....good and bad.

    He has had an unbelievable run at SMW. Dominating and impressive. But it doesnt hide the fact that he has fought far inferior competition than he should have.

    Joe is one of my fav fighters....he is a joy to watch. A hell of an offensive fighter. I cant wait for him to beat Kessler (tho I still will have him at 3....seeing as how I feel Pacman will beat MAB) so this fight can happen.
     
  8. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is strange.

    If Calzaghe beats Kessler, then Hopkins early next year - Calzaghe will be climbing up most peoples' rankings as he drops places in mine as he declines with age.
     
  9. Hollywoodxxl

    Hollywoodxxl New Member Full Member

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    If Calzaghe beats Kessler, then Hopkins early next year - Calzaghe will be climbing up most peoples' rankings as he drops places in mine as he declines with age.

    Good point, I think MK is a good opponent for Joe. hes a good underdog pick.
     
  10. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Well that's majority opinion . . . what can anybody do? :D
     
  11. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Better in pure ability??? :yikes

    :lol: :lol: :lol: You should be ashamed of yourself. :D :yep
     
  12. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    I'm glad u corrected yourself when u said Tarver :lol:, but I can't argue with Winky. Only way B-Hop gets #1 is if Mayweather lose to Hatton, and that's not happening.
     
  13. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    yep

    moved up 2 divisions and demolished the undisputed LHW champ

    then beat one of the top 3 fighters in the world convincingly.

    he is numero uno.

    floyd is arguably 3rd right now
     
  14. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I know you kind of took it back by saying "maybe not Tarver" but are you ****ing out of your mind in ever considering this in the first place :patsch

    It's hilarious how underrated Floyds resume is based on his time at 140lbs and fights at WW. Here's 3 names that Tarver couldn't carry their spit buckets:
    Delahoya
    Castillo
    Corrales

    And there are more on Floyds resume who I'd rate above Tarver. Wright on the other hand is one of the best boxers of this generation and is better than anyone Floyd has ever even talked about fighting.....although Hopkins did fight him 16lbs above his natural weight.
     
  15. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Hopkins doesn't get #1...No Way! He beat Wright at 170lbs, Wright is a 154lber who had a few at 160lbs only to find people who were man enough to fight him. This is "P4P" rankings. You don't move up that much for beating a much "smaller" man after making him pack on extra weight to slow him down for the fight. Not to mention Hops was getting badly out boxed early and was resorting to border-line embarassing and disgraceful tactics to wear Wright down.