Who did Roy Jones avoid during his career?

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  1. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, you have this all wrong. Jones had plenty of skill. It was tailor made to his athletic raw talent, and when that went away he never adapted it. But can be as quick as you like, if you don't know where to place your punches it won't matter. He also knew how to throw the punches. He had great footwork. It wasn't just athleticism.

    As for Hopkins, he had gotten smarter as the years wore on and more skilled. He was also far less imposing physically as his work rate and speed had gone down.
     
  2. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Gee, i don't ever recall saying he relied SOLELY on his raw talents but make no mistake that it was his special physical talents that made him what he was. He wasn't known for his great boxing skills. Yes, you need good brains to use it correctly but come on, it's not that complicated.
     
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  4. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    speed + agility + ring generalship = skills no if and buts about it. Yes RJ was gifted athletically. But he was a hell of a boxer. a Boxers job is to throw punches, and if i recall RJ was the best at that. He may do it differently than others, but at the time no1 was better
     
  5. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, it is very complicated. Jones was very skilled.

    That is what you said. Jones only used his athletic talent to enhance his skill. When it diminished, he didn't adapt. His problem is learning to adapt, not his skill level. Rolling with punches, punch placement, etc. Have you ever listened to Jones commentate? He knows the game very well.
     
  6. Unlimited

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    Wow i dont remember dat I could swear dat the Champ who has held the belt like forever would been da fav then Tito hoping up like 2 weight classes:lol:
     
  7. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Tito was a monsterous favorite going into the bout, which is why I made a pretty penny on that bout.
     
  8. Unlimited

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    I agree RJ has and will always Have Hopkins card. But who are all these other people?

    Dariusz Michalczewski
    Vasily Jirov
    Nigel Benn
    Chris Eubank

    were they really that great that their names should go down in HOF none of these names stick out to me except maybe Nigel.
     
  9. Fab2333

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    yup same here

    those dudes you lsited RJ would have wooped them all.
    People kno that, but you will never know b/c they never fought
    Eubank didnt want to fight RJ, he said it himself in an interview, he said he know RJ would woop him.
    Benn if im not mistaken was offered money to fight RJ. But turned it down. The other 2 im not sure of wat happened. So i wont say somethin thats false. KG prolly would kno
     
  10. Unlimited

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    I guess in order for ROY to have gotten cred he woulda had to fight tyson or Lewis it crazy i mean there wasnt many good people for him to fight
     
  11. rico

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    RJJ had a problem with southpaws long before Tarver ever KHTFO. He avoided Frankie Liles since the Golden Glove days when he was given the gift decision over him in the amateurs. BTW, Fabulous Frankie beat the livin' snot out of Michael Nunn and would have destroyed RJJ in the pros. Liles was beltholder for six years and was avoided by everyone except the overseas guys who were hungry enough to chance looking bad against a slick boxer like him.
     
  12. Fab2333

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    your right. RJ came into boxing when there wasnt a lot of "talent" that could have gave him a run 4 his money when he was in his prime. People fault him 4 that.
    People need to just face it that RJ was just better than evry1 perioid. Like we will try to justify it. But he was just better. Even if RJ would have came into boxing around now. The big names out there. RJ would woop them. You cant deny his skills. Dude was just nice period
     
  13. kg0208

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    Liles turned Jones down too.....HBO confirmed this. But nice try.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjvBq...elated&search=
     
  14. Unlimited

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    Who do you think at LHW now could've had a chance against a prime Roy?
     
  15. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Dawson would offer him a stylistic problem, but given that Dawson has been dropped by far lesser punchers, Jones would have knocked him out.

    Beyond that, nobody would have even troubled a prime Roy.