Part I: Classic's Consensus P4P Top 10 Inclusions

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  1. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Marvin? Nah. I can't see it. I think Ray is a stretch too...
     
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  2. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What's your personal top ten on the assumption that Greb, Langford and B. Leonard aren't included? Is it STILL unsightly, or a stretch to have a Ray or a Marv?
     
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  3. McGrain

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    I think that's fair. It's certainly my position. But it's not absolutley clear.

    Well Ali certainly has a better record against the best he fought than Moore did.

    Oh yeah! Chuck in Sugar Ray Leonard then. I think he has a case to be ranked above Moore, certainly (not my position).

    I believe that's reasonable, but I still feel that these positions are arguable.
     
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  4. McGrain

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    Saying nothing!
     
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  5. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's too many others .... Ross. Canzonari. Burley. Jofre.
     
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  6. Minotauro

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    My bad in that case Walker, Moore, Pep and Ross.
     
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  7. DINAMITA

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    1.Robinson
    2.Armstrong
    3.Charles
    4.Duran
    5.Ali
    6.Walker
    7.Ross
    8.Moore
    9.Pep
    10.Ray Leonard

    ps: Fitzsimmons not included either for the same reason
     
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  8. GPater11093

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    1. Robinson
    2. Armstrong
    3. Greb
    4. Langford
    5. Pep
    6. Charles
    7. Ali
    8. Duran
    9. Leonard (Benny)
    10. Hagler

    HM: Monzon, SRL, Ross, etc...

    i include hagler as i reckon him to be the best middle ever, also i think Pep is the best fighter out of the top 4 as he was being ranked as P4P great before he even retired. the rest are fairly uncontroversial
     
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  9. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stay tuned. I have my own top 10 list too... but if we're honest, all of our preconceptions will be challenged and our lists will change once we apply a standard that is above our preconceptions. First, a pool. Then, a list.
     
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  10. MrMarvel

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    Robinson
    Armstrong
    Ali
    Duran
    Charles
    Pep
    Hagler
    Greb
    Jones Jr.
    Langford

    Several recommended (in no order and nonexhaustive): Monzon, Napoles, Canzoneri, Saddler, Moore, B. Leonard, Chavez, Jofre, Perez, Whitaker, Pryor, Griffith.
     
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  11. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jones is looking like a transvestite at the Arthurian Round Table in that list.
     
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  12. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here's the pool thus far:

    Robinson
    Greb
    Armstrong
    Ali
    Langford
    Duran
    Moore
    Ross
    Charles
    Pep
    Benny Leonard
    Walker

    ---anyone who hasn't voted for these names can second them and they get in:

    Burley
    Canzonari
    Ray Leonard
    Jofre
     
    Stonehands89, Feb 23, 2009
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  13. ishy

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    :rofl
     
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  14. DINAMITA

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    Personally I'd have Sweet Pea above Burley, Canzoneri and Jofre.

    However, the consensus pool group that you have above is perfect IMO.
     
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  15. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Okay... perhaps I'll throw in Whitaker and those three for fun.
     
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