Why is Pac rated higher than JMM at 130lbs???

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Biggame, Aug 23, 2007.


  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    so basically you are saying that jmm is the no.1 at 130 because pac's wins are overrated. if this have nothing to do with barrera, then jmm should not be no.1 because he became the 130 wbc champ because of a solitary win over barrera. you could put guzman, valero or maybe fana :lol: at no.1 above pac if you put too much regard on the belt.

    again if that is your view about pac's accomplishment, you will have a hard time putting him at the top of 130. let a rematch next year see if you are right or wrong after all.
     
  2. Biggame

    Biggame Active Member Full Member

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    No matter how you slice it PAC has accomplished nothing at 130lbs. I said this has nothing to do w/MAB because basically your whole post was about him and you kept pointing out him as the #1 guy there when clearly he isn't anymore. Why you keep talking like that I don't know!

    Now in response of your oh so funny remarks about Valero, Guzman, and even Fana...don't play village Idiot! We all know at the end of the day it's going to be JMM, and PAC, but I can see Guzman there soon if not now!!
     
  3. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    why is pac higher than jmm ? very simple.. just look at the picture and see what jmm is doing in that picture!! :good:good

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  4. Biggame

    Biggame Active Member Full Member

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    Oh,...now I get it!!:patsch

    Now I'll assume,..nope I'll bet the guy saying loser is you!!
    :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
  5. Ridah

    Ridah New Member Full Member

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    MAB beat at 130lbs Erik Morales who was the #1 fighter at that time. then went on to defeat Fana, Peden, Juarez 2X then lost to JMM.

    Manny first fight at 130lbs, he lost against Morales, he then went on to defeat morales twice, velazquez, larios, and solis.

    so the #1 fighter in 130lbs is JMM
     
  6. Biggame

    Biggame Active Member Full Member

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  7. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You are not taking into the account the momentum that Pac built after the Morales win. 2 moths after his destruction of Morales, JMM fought Chris John in Indonesia and lost a decision. Pac was at the top, JMM was at the bottom, since then Pac beat Larios, Morales and Solis and JMM struggled to beat his opponents only to reemerge after his win over Barrera. Because of this momentum Pac is #1. Now Pac is fighting Barrera and JMM is fighting Barrera's victim Juarez.
     
  8. Biggame

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    LOL...you're saying "Pac is fighting Barrera and JMM is fighting Barrera's victim Juarez" but at that same time forgetting that Barrera is JMM's victim!!:rofl :rofl

    I'm not as impressed w/Pac beating a shot EM, or Larios coming up 2 weightclasses, or Solis coming up in weight as you, and I wouldn't call that momentum at all! It's pn paper, but we all know JMM didn't lose to John!! Oh yeah and again Pac is fighting a guy at 130lbs who's coming off of a loss!! Impressive!!!:-(


     
  9. retriever

    retriever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Pacquiao
    2. Sotto
    3. JMM
    4. Guzman
    5. MAB
    6. Valero
     
  10. supercali

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    At 130 lbs., Pac has done more than JMM, let JMM prove himself first at that weight, before this question can be answered objectively. Although Juarez fight won't raise his stock more as it is, assuming jmm gets past him. Same case with Pac-Mab, since he has beaten him prior, but IF Pac beats him in impressive fashion, then it will solidify his 130, P4P, etc. status more than a JMM win even if impressively.
     
  11. Biggame

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    I think JMM has proved he's ellite at the weight. You don't come in and beat the Champ, if you're not a proven fighter:nono And again IMO Pac hasn't proven much at 130lbs by beating a shot EM, two guys moving up in weight, guys coming off losses, and a nobody in Valazquez! More doesn't always equate to better. That's not impressive when you break it down and really look at it!

    Think about it...MAB dethrones EM who was the #1 guy at 130lbs, and later Pac moves up and loses to EM. Pac revenges that lost, but how in the world would MAB all the sudden lose his #1 ranking? Did he lose or something?? To my recollection he hadn't lost til he ran into JMM. It almost like all Pac had to do was win a fight to get that ranking. He loses to a guy MAB beats so where was he ranked then, and what did do to propell him over MAB? How does beating EM after losing to him, after he(EM) already lost to MAB warrant him a #1 ranking:huh What has he accomplished there?
     
  12. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes I'm saying that Pac is fighting Barrera who is not only a victim of JMM but Pac himself, however JMM is fighting an opponent who is a victim of Barrera twice and is moving up, definitly worse opponent then Barrera, so if both PAc and JMM win their bouts, Pac will gain more then JMM and his stock will rise even more. JMM beat John IMO as well but a loss is a loss even when you are robbed, your stock will drop as a result of it.
     
  13. ko factor

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  14. Biggame

    Biggame Active Member Full Member

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    I guess beating guys coming off a losses does gain you more credit than anyone else when your name is Pac!! Now since all you guys are assuming PAC will win again against MAB so easily how is he to get more credit? I mean he's fighting a guy coming off of a loss, and someone the whole world thinks he could beat!! What's so big about it??

     
  15. mad_takamura

    mad_takamura It's getting hot in here! Full Member

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    so does jmm vs mab everybody in the world thought jmm would come off that fight guns_a_blazing.. yet he almost lost and many people think that mab did a lot to win that fight! the win of jmm isn't convincing enough! compare that to pac's win over barrera and you know what happened there! his brother cried like they lost a lollipop! now jmm's win over mab? what's so big about it?:huh pac's win over mab what so big about it? :catapulted pac to stardom! jmm's win over jaca.. what's so big about it? jmm would surely beat jaca! everyone knows it!(not that i'm underestimating my pinoy bro's) pac's win over larios? what's so big about it? though larios came up he and lost his previous fight, larios name is recognizable in the bantam's with his fights with mccullogh, vasquez,and hussein.. compare larios to jaca :-( or to john who jmm shamefully fought for peanuts.. or compare both jaca and john to em alone: a future atg..now compare this pac ko's 2 future atg's or p4p's '2 renowned mexicans, a draw to marques( though pac could have won by judge's mistake,)ud over a renowned bantam in larios(if you don't then youre ignorant),ko velas(though i'm not really crediting velasques cos his name is not that bloomy though at the time facing pac was never down in 5 yrs), k.o. against undefeated solis to any opponent marques fought? your only right to argue is mab and john: are they legit to brag about against pac's opponents?!!wtf!! you really are stupid! biggame loser just accept it and don't be sour about it! you're not as big as the ring mag. afterall!!! stfu!