Part I: Classic's Consensus P4P Top 10 Inclusions

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Stonehands89, Feb 22, 2009.


  1. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: I do agree with your degrees point, BUT....

    why would you want to brag about being the best poster on an internet forum anyway? That's just a lame distinction to have. Being the best fighter on the planet on the ohter hand is something well worth boasting about imo, so long as it's not done in a way that belies the truth, e.g. a Floyd Mayweather rocking up with a gladiator suit and then running all night. THAT type of **** is lame.

    Having a t-shirt or jacket or hat or whatever that promotes yourself is ok. Pea was the man, and the jacket said so. I see nothing wrong with it. Sure it's boastful, but at least it's the truth.
     
  2. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let the truth speak for itself. Walking around like a human billboard promoting your talents or skills or accomplishments is classless. Put it on a resume. Let others speak for you. Have you ever had a conversation with someone who can't stop bragging about themselves? They suck. Kids today think it's "kewl".... but it isn't cool.

    Whether you're the top fighter in the world or the top widget salesman, if you wear a jacket around town proclaiming it, I reserve the right to consider it goofy. The guys who let their actions speak for themselves are almost always more mature. Ali was being comedic most of the time with his brand of bravado, and it was entertaining, but others really come across as having no class. Michael Nunn for instance. That jacket for instance. Loud, in your face, arrogant and obnoxious... it's the hip hop mentality.
     
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  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    lets get back to rating guys now lads and not jackets although i could do with a new jacket

    i think the best way to get a P4P list is to look at the best fighters of every five year intervals from the 1920s onward as you see who was considered the best at that time and you can see who the ATGs are
     
  4. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm a huge fan of Whitaker, but I think Pep is the master of the tricky style. Pep's record is insane. Whitaker was better at jumping weights, of course. But Pep was the greater of the two.
     
  5. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I find it strange that one of the most dominant and greatest single weight champs hasnt had much of a mention....This guy was unbeaten over the last 81 fights of his career,won ALL 15 of his world title fights,beat very good opposition and retired as champion....The boy is considered my many to be the best 160 man of them all....
     
  6. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If someone seconds him, he'll be in the pool.
     
  7. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That isn't a bad idea.... although some guys have short primes and fall through the cracks; not to mention the fact that sometimes guys aren't appreciated until after their career is wrapped up.
     
  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    well stone hands what im menaing is we rank every 5 year intervals so we can appreciate the guys who are forgotten in there time like Sweet Pea, winky wright etc...

    also agree about the short primes but 5 year intervals should cover 99.9% of people because if they are exetpional surley they would be rnaked top 10 in a 5 year interval even with a year prime
     
  9. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thought this would be a fun old one to see current comments on
     
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  10. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    So weird - I was actually completely independently of this thread coming up with a list of the 100 best fighters of the last 100 years (taking it from Jan 1st 1920 to Dec 31st 2019) with an aim of finishing it before year end. I'd never seen this thread before.

    In terms of a definitive top 5, based on the 1920 cut off, do Greb and Langford automatically make it?
     
  11. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not Sam after 1920. Dempsey either.
     
  12. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Great, great thread.

    Basically everyone who can be mentioned for the top 10, has been.

    In my opinion, Barbados Joe is quite under discussed about his p4p inclusion, even if you wouldn't rate him near the top 10. Same with Lou Ambers IMO.
     
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  13. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    I also think Jimmy Wilde is deserving of the top 10. At the very least top 20.
     
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  14. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    But post 1920?
     
  15. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good post