Adamek's time is about up if he dares fight the Executioner!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jeff M, Feb 28, 2009.


  1. Cross of Iron

    Cross of Iron Active Member Full Member

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    No , Hopkins is a great strategic fighter but his style is seldom fan pleasing just an honest fact. His fight against Pavlik was his most entertaining fight in over a decade and Pavlik had moved up weight and was not 100 %
     
  2. hyper

    hyper New Member Full Member

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    In the last fight Hopkins had with an opponent who had something to fight for (i.e potential career retirement undefeated) he got schooled by Calzaghe.
    The fact remains, anyone who wants to see boxing flourish does not disrespect the consumate professional Adamek.
    Anyone who wants to see audiences and the sport dissapear and die, still craves for a bore like Hopkins to yawn his way to the odd upset :zzz
    Cunningham gets his rematch when Adamek decides. Heck, no one had seen USS fight before Adamek gave him a FOTY :lol:
     
  3. Cruiser1

    Cruiser1 Champion Emeritus Full Member

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    Bernard is an anomaly as a fighter but if you're just gonna hand him a win over Adamek without thinking it through you are really jumping the gun. One of Bernard's best attributes is being able to negate the opponents' strengths and lure them into an ugly fight in which they are simply not allowed to get into any rhythm. Most of the time the opponent fails to adjust and is there for the taking. I do not think Adamek would be one of those opponents.

    For one thing, Adamek has shown that he can stick to certain fight plans and be very effective. Against Cunningham he was in there with a slick guy who can be somewhat negative as a fighter and outbox you. Tomasz had to make every opportunity count and he did, scoring 3 knockdowns that swung the fight. Against Banks, he came in with a gameplan that banked on patience and ramping up the attack as the fight went on. He never lost his composure and turned it up a notch in every round until he finally got through with the vicious right hand that basically ended it. Adamek most likely based his gameplan off of Banks/Rossitto, the fight in which Banks tired late. Very calculated and methodical yet very effectve. There was no secret as to who was getting stronger and who was tiring as the fight went on.

    Obviously Bernard is a different animal but at 200 lbs who knows what kind of fighter he would be? One thing is for sure. He's not getting any younger and Adamek will go to the body so that can't help. Adamek's not a guy who loads up on one punch either so it won't be a cakewalk. He's always punching in combinations. Watch the KD's. There's always a left hook that follows the damaging right hands. It only glances the opponent because the guy's on the way down in the first place. Sure, Adamek can be predictable and seem almost one-dimensional but he finds ways to adjust and when he opens up he makes it count. Hopkins would have to counter effectively to beat him and he could probably do that. The thing is that all of Adamek's other attributes such as his chin, his resolve, and his ability to adjust and find the openings make him a very difficult opponent. Not to mention the fact that he is a legitimate cruiser, not a smaller guy moving up in weight.
     
  4. HauntingTheHoly

    HauntingTheHoly Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Before I waste time reading this entire goddamned thread - Bernard did say he wans't interested in Adamek, right? Or has something changed?
     
  5. rumour24tiger

    rumour24tiger Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was back and forth, Cunningham hurt Adamek twice, Adamek drops him three times. Not so simple that Cunningham just has to box; Adamek boxed well also. Cunningham isn't allowed to get a straight title shot because the IBF won't sanction a fight if the challenger is coming off a loss.

    I suppose Adamek is "ducking" Cunningham, right?

    Adamek's a thrilling TV fighter with a good local following. Bernard is a defensive spoiler without many fans aside from message boarders who want to see him do the "unthinkable" every other fight. Put Adamek in with Bernard and all the reasons for watching Adamek fight are gone. Adamek is in great fights vs ppl who trade with him. Hopkins doesn't trade, he spoils, smothers and makes fights frustrating and ugly.
     
  6. rumour24tiger

    rumour24tiger Well-Known Member Full Member

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    well said you've nailed it

    so many ppl want to be astonished by Hopkins doing the unthinkable yet again - in other words "Bernard wins another Ring mag title, OMG, isn't he AMAZING" quack quack quack. Fighters who spoil should be warned by refs, and shouldn't be allowed to et bakc on HBO so easily.
     
  7. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bingo!
    We can all respect Hopkins for his achievements, but how anyone can actually root for a boring fart like Hops - who does more with his mouth than with his hands - against a pure excitment rod like Adamek, is beyond me.
    Adamek and Hopkins certainly have very different attributes and areas of mastery. It is a mistake to suggest that Hopkins has superior or more physical and psychological attributes than Adamek or that he is a superior fighter, at this point. On punch power alone, one Adamek equals a million Calslappys and a thousand Ghosts.
     
  8. Slider75

    Slider75 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopkins will get his career first real ass whooping against Adamek! Adamek is not to young, to old, or to overated to get schooled by Hopkins!
     
  9. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This rather one - sided prediticon about Bernhard is based in the idea that he can come up with another vintage performance at will. His fight against Pavlik was brilliant but it was his first brilliant fight since Tarver. Bernhard may or may not be able to come up with another heroic performance, but he is way past his prime in terms of being able to do it in every fight. The version of Bernhard that fought Calzaghe or Winky would probably be crapped on by Adamek.
     
  10. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Adamek would love to fight Bhop. Those are the fights that he is gunning for, instead he has to fight undefeated young guys and doesnt get credit later on. Adamek looks very solid at 6'3 199 lbs, PAvlik looked soft at 175lbs.
     
  11. Kojiro

    Kojiro Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly. In fact he craves big money fights so much he's seriously thinking about fighting Golota. :-(

    Anyway if Hopkins is serious about this one, Amamek will take it. And I honestly believe it would be an EXTREMELY tough for Adamek to win this one. Hopkins is a true beast recently.
     
  12. papptheking

    papptheking Active Member Full Member

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    hopkins look very good against smaller fighters anytime he fought good fighter of equal size he lose adamek would beat him
     
  13. rumour24tiger

    rumour24tiger Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hops will want him to come down to 185 or 190 I'll bet. There will surely be some kind of catchweight **** as every Hopkins fight since Tarver has had a massive weight issue.

    Pavlik landed 2 big shots in rd 11 on Hopkins. With Pavlik being blown up middle, the shots had no effect. Adamek is natural cruiser/light heavy, can bang at both weights, if it came to the worst he has the puncher's chance. Would let his hands go fastrer than Pavlik did in that dreadful showing. Adamek does have some solid boxing skills, above average handspeed for a cruiser, cruiserweight power. Hopkins needs to lower the risk of these elements.
     
  14. Kid Cuba

    Kid Cuba Boxing Junkie banned

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    I hope Adameek dosent move up to Heavyweight, the Cruserweight division needs fighters like him.
     
  15. Soda_Popinski

    Soda_Popinski SzablÄ… odbierzemy Full Member

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    Well, Adamek was recently interviewed on Sport.pl - Basically called the Golota rumors absolute Bull**** and mentioned that they are going to call Hops on Monday to discuss a potential fight. He said he is not going to come down in weight to face him though and that the fight should be in Newark - where he suspects 24K fans would come out - 12K for him - 12K for Hops.