if adamek beats bhop

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  1. kracka81

    kracka81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    if adamek beats bhop does this mean kelly pavlik is more overated or is adamek really that good. from the last 2 adamek fights is seen he is really a good worrior and has a durable chin. Now on the other hand. i have seen alot of Pavlik fights because i am a fan. He convicingly beat Taylor twice won by ko and one by points. he ko d miranda He did stop an old bronco mckart. but other than that he really hasnt done that much to deserve all the recognition he gets. so if adamek beats b hop i am gonna say maybe pavlik is not all that yet.
     
    kracka81, Mar 23, 2009
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  2. lv lurker

    lv lurker fly on the wall Full Member

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    i consider myself a fan of pavliks because he's a power punching american and seems like a real decent guy. for the same reason that i like him, i feel most of the american fans are overrating him. compared to the middleweight division of the past, todays is relatively weaker, thus making him look like the real deal. i'm thinking that if the fight with mora pushes through, it will make him look even more so mediocre.
     
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  3. iceman

    iceman Tis my Island Full Member

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    I wish people would stop comparing fighters like this - its just not feasible, and we are talking about comparisons over 3 or 4 weight classes.
    When Pavlik gets comprehensibly beaten at 160 then tell me he's not that good.
     
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  4. andyZOR

    andyZOR Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    If Adamek wins than we will see ******s like hudson and w/e saying Bhop was shot and old and give Adamek no credit at all.

    Happens all the time
     
    andyZOR, Mar 23, 2009
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  5. lv lurker

    lv lurker fly on the wall Full Member

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    ****, i never even got to my point. hops wiped him out, and that was the proof you were looking for. but this fight doesnt diminish pav.
     
    lv lurker, Mar 23, 2009
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  6. AceNguyen

    AceNguyen Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This would have no reflection on Pavlik because it's 40 pounds above Pavlik's weight class. Not even remotely close to comparable.

    And I still remember Adamek getting completely outboxed by Dawson, I don't see him as anything special.
     
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  7. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ok. BHop is not shut. But at his age you can't say he is at his prime. Whenever he lose or decide to retire is OK. What is a shame is the way he keeps beating younger people. And the once he doesn't beat at least he gives them a night to remember.
     
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  8. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bhop choose Adamek for a reason. Just like Jones/Ruiz. If you are planning to fight in a weight were you don't really belong at least you should pick on someone you might beat.
     
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  9. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Styles makes fights. It's more on Adamek being that good.

    Actually that Pavlik loss doesn't relate to Pavlik being a weaker fighter or over hyped . . . at least to me. The guy fought Bhops above his regular weight class and Bhop's style is really difficult to beat.
     
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  10. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Adamek is bigger, yes, but he's also a more complete boxer than Pavlik altogether.

    Hopkins is better than both of them, but Adamek is certainly a better boxer than Pavlik.
     
    Rumsfeld, Mar 23, 2009
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  11. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    I see the Bhops/Adamek fight as another 50/50 fight . . . but I have to agree on your opinion. :yep :good
     
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  12. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:

    This.
     
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  13. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Yes they all pick opponents for a reason but we all know it doesn't always happen the way it is expected.

    Like MAB vs Pac; like Morales vs Zahir :D :deal
     
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  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    That's true of a certain minority, but I think most people will give credit where it's due.

    Who do you like in this one, Axe? You think Adamek wins?
     
    Rumsfeld, Mar 23, 2009
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  15. ray fredrickson

    ray fredrickson Member Full Member

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    I like Adamek!!!the more I see of him,IMPESSED!! I think Kelly made mistake moving up weight. I feel Adamek over BHop. Kelly has nothing to do with Adamek,different weights!!! Kelly should stay KING of ..MIDDLES!!:happy
     
    ray fredrickson, Mar 23, 2009
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