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  1. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    David Reid slurs his speech now man Tito ****ed him up its such a shame they went into that fight with 0 experience at all. Didn't even belong in the ring with Trinidad and you gotta give it to him for dominating Tito early in that fight.
     
  2. T.C.W

    T.C.W Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Alot of these fighters who seriously slurr their speech.....
    .....certainly the punches they take are a culprit, but fighters like Whitaker, Wilfredo Benitez, Hector Camacho, and quite a few others, were into heavy drugs.......
    .....Meldrick Taylor is so far gone with his speech communication, I'm wondering if he did'nt dabble into heavy drug use.

    Some of these fighters make so much money, have so much time on their hand away from training......
    .......they have such a group following, that they just dont know how to handle it.......they end up turning to drugs to make all the groupies around them happy.

    Its sad, but I'd bet with most of these fighters, drugs has played a bigger role than the actual abuse they took in the ring.
     
  4. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    That story just eats me up.

    As boxing fans that support the sport, we dont like to think about it.....but its the reality.

    I dont know that there is a solution to avoiding and trying to prevent situations like that of Terry Norris'......but man, when I think of Terry Norris, I think of a Warrior in the ring and a true soft spoken gentleman out of it........
    ......man, this just bums me out!!!!:?
     
  5. Burundanga

    Burundanga Renaissance Man Full Member

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    With all due respect, this is utter nonsense.

    Chronic traumatic encephalopathy, pugilistic Parkinson's syndrome, boxer's syndrome, and punch-drunk syndrome are all different ways to describe the neurological disorder that affects boxers and others who receive repeated blows to the head. It's a proven fact that boxing causes these problems.
     
  6. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm not saying that boxing does'nt cause these problems.
    What I'm saying is that their are fighters out there like Pernell Whitaker for example.....heavy drug use is most probably the culprit for his speech slurring and involuntary facial twitches!
    The same can be said of Wilfredo Benitez who was a heavy drug abuser.

    Has anybody heard one of the greatest soccer stars in history talk lately?????.....Argentina's Diego Maradona??????
    He's an outright drug abuser. If he was a boxer, we'd have put him on this thread and on this list.
    .......or are you going to say that his hitting a soccer ball with his head is the cause for his predicament?
     
  7. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    No lambasting here, but I do have a couple of thoughts on it. Number one is that I think a huge, huge reason why it's more prevalent in boxing is because of how young fighters generally start fighting. I don't care if you've got headgear on or not, kids punching each other day in day out does much more damage than a fighter who doesn't start until, say, 18 or 19 years old. The brain's still developing at that age, and bigger gloves and headgear aren't going to prevent that damage. Figure in all the amateur fights, sparring, and gym wars, and you get guys who're shopworn by the time they're 25. Look at Hasim Rahman, who didn't start boxing until he was 20- this guy's gotten KO'd brutally, multiple times. However, he's in better shape speech-wise than the fighters on that list who've been KO'd less. Nearly all those guys people are mentioning were Olympians or high-level amateurs by the time they were teens. The seeds were sown for damage later on in their professional career.

    The only problem is, those who start late are generally at a disadvantage to those who've trained their whole childhoods, and alot of athletes don't turn to boxing that late because they don't think it's a realistic option. The kids who do have boxing as a future usually don't have the luxury of waiting. I wish I had the solution to this issue, but I've pinpointed that that's the difference.

    Point two, and much less important than the main point I'm stressing, is that MMA is still a new sport in the grand scheme of things. In 20 years, we'll have a better handle on the long term effects of it. It's also a sport where you don't have to get hit in the head for training every day because of how important other skills are, and it's a sport most people don't take up until later in life. Most fighters don't even get started in MMA before they're in their 20's. With how mainstream the sport's getting, I do expect the talent pool to continue to get younger, however.
     
  8. Burundanga

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    Divac ...what you said was that drug use has played a bigger role than the actual abuse they took in the ring and that is rubbish. Sure Maradona has slurred speech because he is a drug addict but that doesn't have anything to do with boxing. And by the way, I live in England and it is a common discussion here that a life of heading a ball can cause these very symptoms although I would agree that it is of course MUCH less an issue with football (soccer)

    Fact: Pugilistic Dementia is real and is without a doubt the most likely culprit of the brain damage issues.

    For every boxer you claim has slurred speech from drug abuse, I can name 10 that have never touched the stuff.

    Simple: Boxing causes irreparable brain injury to many many career boxers.
     
  9. Burundanga

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    Yup. I definately agree with you. Especially point 2. I would add that the basic construct of the sport are so different that MMAers should fare better over time. Repeated blows to the head in MMA usually last a fraction of the time in MMA and once a guy is semi-conscious for any reason, the bout is usually stopped. Standing a guy up for 8 seconds to recover once he is nearly unconscious does not happen in MMA and I think thats a major factor. The fighter may have "recovered" but his brain is beginning to swell....the 8 seconds doesn't stop that. When you think about it, it's like ramming your car into a pole at 30 miles per hours.....clearing the cobwebs....getting in another car...doing it again and again and again until you can't continue.....
     
  10. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree with you- the quick stoppages of MMA are what should help save fighters from a quality of life standpoint, combined with the fact not all fights even have much striking. MMA does have it's own issues to deal with for it's fighters, however- The Smashing Machine, about Mark Kerr, is a good documentary about that. We'll still have to wait to see what other long term effects being in MMA can have, however.

    Also, note that Joe Frazier is the first person to win the gold in the Olympics and be Heavyweight champion. How interesting that the rise of young fighters taking on more and more amateur fights before turning pro happened right around the same generation where pugilistica dimentia started becoming more and more common.
     
  11. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    My mistake friend, certainly what you're saying is true.

    I should have worded it that with alot of these fighters drugs has played a bigger role than the actual punches they took in the ring.

    Certainly what you're saying rings true. Boxing is an unforgiving sport.
    The head trauma alot of these fighters take throughout their careers certainly catches up, and takes their toll unfortunately.
     
  12. MilesP

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    :yikes

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  13. ozziebattler

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    Olympic gold medalist has no experience???

    And im pretty sure the thousands of punches Reid would of copped throughout his career would of contributed to the slurred speech,not just one tito beat down..
     
  14. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    God, he's absolutely gone to ****.
     
  15. He Hate Me

    He Hate Me Active Member Full Member

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    wish i knew what he was trying to say.