Welsh Amateur Boxing

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  1. Walker Smith Jr

    Walker Smith Jr New Member Full Member

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    Would anyone from Wales be interested in becoming an amateur boxing referee or judge?
     
  2. UndisputedUK

    UndisputedUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hello,

    Interesting question, I'm from Wales. What does it involve ?

    Regards

    UndisputedUK
     
  3. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    I was going to be a boxing ref before

    I spoke to Dai Corp from the Welsh Boxing Board over the phone about it

    He actually invited me to a British Boxing Board of Control meeting in a Cardiff hotel to introduce myself but I bottled out of going

    I thought - **** it - I dont want to be a poncey ref in a dickie bow

    **** that

    Good luck to anyone who does though
     
  4. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    Referee Mitch Halpern who refereed Tyson V Holyfield and De La Hoya V Trindad was a youngish bloke

    I thought all refs were fat beer belly guys like John Coyle or bald coots like Mills Lane

    But I thought Mitch halpern could have only been in his 20's or 30 or smoething and I though if a young guy like that can be a good ref pherhaps I can give it a go


    I wanted to be a pro ref and not a amateur one - I could have followed it through but **** it I didnt

    Mitch Halpern ending up commiting sucide sadly
     
  5. Gaz S

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    Don't you need to have some sort of vision impairment to be a judge in the W.A.B.A? Certainly seems that way, what with some of the apalling decisions that occur there!
     
  6. Walker Smith Jr

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  7. Walker Smith Jr

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    That's harsh!

    Give me some examples from the last few years.
     
  8. Gaz S

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    Loads of them, no particular instance. First one to spring to mind is the youth semis last year (or maybe the year before) one of the Innes twins handled William Evans pretty easily, only for Evans to get the decision.
    And the judges often have huge differences in their scores from watching the same fight. One might have it 18-4 Red and another might have it 13-1 Blue!

    But in all fairness there a some good judges too. Steve Docherty is a great judge, very fair and knows what he's watching. And no, I'm not related or associated in any way! :)
     
  9. achillesthegreat

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    I would be interested if it was England. Depends on the commitment. Are you commited to every week? every few weeks? whenever you like?

    Going to watch amateur shows would be great. Eventually you'd know all our future pros. Surely some of the judges/refs have seen Calzaghe, Macca and co on the circuit!
     
  10. Gaz S

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    Yeah, in all fairness it's a good crack. Depending on what time of year it is is how busy it gets. Sometimes you can get three or four shows in one week! Especially just before championships because coaches are trying to get their boxers' their 2 bout minimum per season to qualify for entry.

    You see Maccarinelli at a few shows now and again, particularly if there's any Bonymaen lads on the shows.
    Never see Calzaghe these days though. Him and the W.A.B.A never had a great relationship :roll:
     
  11. Walker Smith Jr

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    Is this Steve Docherty himself? :lol:

    Some of the problems are due to computer scoring. There are generally less poor decisions with individual scoring at club shows.
     
  12. Gaz S

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    Walker, no offence mate about my previous comments. We all have different opinions right :)

    Anyway, I don't know who you are, but one point I'd like to raise if you have any influence or stroke within the W.A.B.A is the Home Nations championships being held late summer, out of season.
    Last year they were held in July and most of the home championships were completed months before then. It isn't fair on the boxers who competed in a certain weight category to have to hold their weight for so long. Remember a lot of the schoolboys and youths are growing lads and are naturally getting bigger.
    If they boxed at say, 60kg in February, by July they may have no chance of getting down to that weight again to compete in the British championships simply because they've naturally grown, as you do during your adolescent teen years.

    Just a valid point worth raising that I feel the W.A.B.A should give some consideration to.

    Also, I think they need to reintroduce a light-middleweight category. The 69kg-75kg is a big gap.
     
  13. Walker Smith Jr

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    Yeah true. Enzo Mac attends shows fairly regularly. I've never seen Joe at an amateur boxing show. Seriously, how hard would it be for him just to attend one now and again? Maybe this will change now he's started promoting himself.
     
  14. Gaz S

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    He doesn't even show up to the shows in Newbridge.
    Loads of pros and ex-pros are regulars though - Colin Jones, Paul Samuels, Michael Smyth, Nigel Haddock... all lovely fellas to talk to.
    Now and again you see Nathan Cleverly, Tony Docherty, Barrie Jones and Gary Buckland too amongst others
     
  15. achillesthegreat

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    I've seen Lenny Daws at a London show.