Why MORALES ranks higher than BARRERA

Barrera CLEARLY won the third fight. It was clear as day NO ONE can change that.

Barrera won the first Morales the 2nd and then Barrera the third.

 

Barrera won the 3rd clearly i think it was this fight were the ring wars were starting to take there toll on Erik and also he didnt focus as much on this fight cus he believed he would knock Barrera out after he was destroryed by Pacquaio.

 

People forget MORALES HAS NEVER BEEN A LINEAR OR UNDISPUTED CHAMPION IN ANY DIVISION!!!!!!!!!

Barrera has at 126.

 

GREAT STATEMENT

 

I don't know how anyone could give the first fight to morales.it was like bowe holyfield one in which the loser (being morales) fought great but got clearly beaten

second fight was morales. third fight was MAB

 

The first 2 fights were close, but i thought the third was a CLEAR win for Barrera.

 

Anyone who scored the 2nd fight for Barrera needs there eyes testing, he was soundly being outboxed and when Morales knocked him down with a body shot the ref decided not to count it. Although i would rank Barrera higher

 

Woulda Shoula Coulda

Your avoiding the point that Morales was never a Undispured/Linear Champ.

At 122 Bungu had the best case for being No1 (beating Mkkinney twice pre-Barrera) until he moved up to face Hamed.

At 126 Morales didn't achieve anything other than having a close fight with linear champ Barrera - it was very close and I had it to Barrera at the time

At 130 he purposely avoided moving too until Freitas/Cassa/Corales/Mayweather left and the division was 1 of the weakest. He beat 2 paper champs and then clearly lost to Barrera. His win against Pacman was a great 1 but his next 3 losses were the end.

At 135 he took 1 of the weakest paper champions P4P and went close but lost taking a beating in the late rounds - he could have won but beating David Diaz doesn't mean anything anyway

Barrera beat Morales 2-1 in most peoples cards and the 1s that counted. Some such as myself have it Barrera 3-0. Both Barrera and Morales would not be as big without each other

 

I have to shake my head at those of you who have Morrales winning the 3rd fight. atsch

He was a beaten man in that fight, hell he wasnt even prepared and you could see it on his face in the later rounds.

 

Morales is certainly 1 of your faves. Maybe you weren't biased viewing the fights but I'm sure as a fan of Morales you prefered his work. Thats 1 of the subjective things about judging - taking 1 power shot over a few pitter patter punches, a few accurate over many less accurate blows, a straight over a hook (or vice versa), or simply the assumption 1 fighters work is better.

It was a great rivalry - greatest in history? Not in my opinion - Langford-Wills, Ali-Frazier, SRR-LaMotta, Holyfield-Bowe, Leonard-Duran all take some beating.

:good

 

About the three Morales/Barrera fights, I had Erik winning their first two meetings, by margins of 8-4 and 7-5 in rounds respectively, and the 3rd bout I scored for MAB 7-4-1.

I agree with Senya13 about the first bout, Marco landed the more meaningful punches that had the more telling effect, but they were few and far between whereas Erik outpunched and outlanded Marco by a margin of about three to one, and did so for the whole bout.

The second bout was only marginally closer, and while not an outright robbery I still think Marco got a gift from the judges in the sense that since many people felt he should have gotten the nod in their first bout (which I never agreed with), perhaps the judges were more partial to him in the rematch because of the controversy surrounding the decision in their first meeting.

Their third bout saw Erik falling behind early, mounting a rally in the later rounds, but ultimately falling short as he could not overcome the deficit he incurred in the first half of the fight. I agree with those posters who thought that Erik likely underestimated MAB going into the bout, due to his blowout loss to Pacquaio previously.

As for who ranks higher between the two men, I hesitate to say at this point because while Erik is now retired (at least I hope he is), MAB is still active and has what could be a career defining bout for him coming up against his conqueror Manny Pacquiao in October.

At this moment, I have Erik ahead but only by a C-hair, but that could all change should Marco defeat Pacman in their return. Either way, both men are near equals both in terms of accomplishments and head to head, and I will reserve final judgement until both MAB and Erik are retired for keeps.

 

Bull****.