Just seen the Tyson film....

I didn't post here at the time, not sure if the site even existed but if what you're asking is 'did these headbutts really happen?' then yes, they certainly did, although I thought that the one really, really bad one in the first fight wasn't deliberate. In the second fight he was being pretty blatant. Holyfield is notorious for using his nut. Lennox Lewis once said "I've only got two scars from boxing and they're both from Holyfield's head"

 

They were preposterous

 

It's no secret that Holyfield likes to headbutt people.
He did some good damage to Mike with them. Whether or not that was a deciding factor in the wins, I'm sure everyone has varying degrees of opinion.

 

hasim rahman!!!!!

peace

 

^^that was funny

 

Need John Horne's take.......

 

Holyfield should've been DQ'd in BOTH fights, first of all he excessivly clinched ie Ruiz style, than he used his head,.

 

I don't know about that, but he should have been penalised. That's the problem with boxing, popular fighters get away with anything and they know it. If a ref just says "watch your head" fifty times and doesn't take a point it's not going to stop the fifty first head butt is it?

 

they were accidental holifield burries his head into the chest of his opponent so he can counter puncher effectively

 

it is a mans game at the end of the day im not advocating cheating but if you are a born winner like holyfield you'd try to bend the rules sometimes personelly i think him juicing up was worse but then i believe tyson did that too

 

I've never seen someone fight as blatently dirty as that, and not even get a warning, his holding alone was grounds for a DQ, BTW I'm not a Tyson fanatic, I just call it like it is. Holding is fine but when its done in excess its a problem, for example Ruiz who is not popular but during his fight with Golota the ref allowed him to clinch 192 times, Ruiz should've been DQ'd that night.

 

Let me just say first that I'm a big fan of both fighters.

Anyone that saw the first fight knows that Tyson was not afraid to take his beating like a man if it came to that.

The reason Tyson lost it was because he got headbutted like crazy by EH and one of the headbutts opened up a sickening cut over his right eye and he must have known that he was f*cked.

Mike was fighting better in the rematch and I thought he had a good shot at winning, and he felt like everything just got taken from him because of EH blatantly using his head. So, MT just lost it in the ring. It wasn't that he was scared of losing or being KO'd -- he already went through that with EH before -- it was that he felt he had been cheated and that neither the ref or anyone else gave a sh*t so he just took matters into his own mouth.

Ask Bobby Czyz about Holyfield's headbutts.

 

oh yea sure like 10 "accidental" headbutts in the same fight.