Michael Moorer

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  1. smiff

    smiff Member Full Member

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    Did he under-achieve in a big way ?
    What were his main failings and attributes ?
     
  2. Muchmoore

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    He didn't really underachieve, maybe a bit of an overachiever in that he has a win over Holyfield.

    His main problem was his chin, obviously. His ability to take a punch was a bit below average, and he wasn't the strongest guy either. He did, however, have a solid set of skills and fought out of an awkward stance. His power and handspeed were both solid.
     
  3. Ischbaad

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    I think that he had an excellent career personally. He's not an ATG, but he accomplished a lot. He just seemed to lack mental strength at times, which really let him down.
     
  4. smiff

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    Good skills and technique but lacked the chin and will to win that sees lesser boxers achieve alot more. Loads of fighters like that aren't there.
     
  5. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    He had a good career, he just didnt fight smart a lot of times. He had the technical skills to box and probably achieve a lot more at heavyweight than he did, but his willingness to slug it out with bigger punchers was his downfall. He should have beaten Foreman, had a much easier time with Botha and Cooper, and never have taken the Tua fight. I remember thinking, he'll never make it out of the first round with Tua, but he didnt make it to the first minute.
    Ive had the chance to be in camp and around Moorer. He is a strange guy. Dont ever call him Mike, its Michael. He abused sparring partners and talked sh*t the entire time he sparred. Funny story, My buddy invited him to a party with his girlfriend, and he called him Mike introducing him to a friend, and Moorer just about broke his arm grabbing him and telling him not to call him Mike. Everyone just looked at him like he was crazy. Strange dude. True story...
     
  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Michael Moorer could have probably established himself as an ATG had he stayed at Light Heavyweight his entire career. He was one of the hardest hitters that weight has ever seen, and I think he had the ability to go with it. At Heavyweight, he couldn't take the big guys best shots, but you'd have to think his punch reisstance would have been significantly better had he stayed at Light Heavy.

    At the end of the day, the success he had as a Heavyweight is indicative of how great of a Light Heavyweight he could have turned out to be.
     
  7. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Overachiever in my opinion. He had his share of scrapes in the Pittsburgh area. Teddy Atlas (of all people) portrayed him as a head case. He was gifted physically but was severely lacking from a mental/emotional standpoint. I'd say the odds were higher that he would've gotten himself in prison than accomplished what he did.
     
  8. MRBILL

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    Moorer failed in the chin and conditioning dept. big time....... M.M. was lean and mean early on at 175, but all too often sluggish and soft at heavyweight..... The BEST Ol' Moorer ever looked at heavyweight was his 214 pounds he weighed for Holy in 1994.... Moorer never made 214 ever again.....

    MR.BILL

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    Moorer always had power, but I was not impressed with Moorer's 2004 stoppage over Vasily Jirov at 247 pounds.... What killed me the most was, Michael Moorer actually trained hard for Jirov..... 247 pounds? Jesus Christ....
     
  9. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    What a dickhead.

    I think he's a bit of an overachiever in that he fought Holyfield at exactly the right time. Only a coked up Cooney after 3 years of inactivity got knocked out worse by Foreman during his entire 10 year lasting comeback, that says something. Even Tommy Morrison did better and he supposedly can't box for **** nor handle pressure.
     
  10. DamonD

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    I think he was someone that loved to brawl but forced himself to box. You could see that indecision there sometimes, most to his detriment against Foreman.
     
  11. MRBILL

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    Moorer under-estimated Foreman's resistance and willpower..... Moorer believed he could KO Foreman by getting Foreman drunk with a volley of sharp punches in the early going.... Moorer wanted to win by KO...... However, yes, Moorer made a tactical error in judgement by pretty much standing in front of George Foreman.... Moorer did use some tiny stutter-step movements in the bout, but by rd 10, Moorer was flat-footed..... The 10th round was all Foreman's.... Moorer took some wicked shots before that final right hand smacked into his china chin........ A great win for Foreman..... I popped a full woody when Moorer hit the floor...........:yep:tong:D:lol::good

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  12. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

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    one of my favourite fighters..
    when he opened up on someone he was very exciting and soooooo sharp..
    i remember he was ranked best heavyweight puncher in the world at one point.
    He had alot of self belief issues but people often forget he was flogging foreman when he went down. its a real shame he didnt go as well as he could have
     
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  14. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Bill before the stoppage in that fight Jirov had won just about every round then boom Moorer nailed him and Jirov ended up getting stopped.

    I thought Jirov was on his way to winning an easy UD then one punch changed the whole fight.
     
  15. mr. magoo

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    Agreed,

    Leslie Steward is in all likelihood the best fighter he met at LH, and Steward had him out boxed for nearly 8 rounds before Moorer's one punch power saved him. Hill would have been a nightmare.